I'm a newbie to the site & had some questions regarding an H22 swap into a 1997 Acura 2.2 CL with an automatic tranny. I tried to search the site, but the search engine kept giving me errors because I had a word (CL) that was less than 4 letters. No matter how I spell it, I can't seem to make (CL) into four letters.
I just bought a '97 2.2 CL, but can't stand the automatic tranny. I kind of knew I wouldn't like it, but the price was right & the car is sweet, so I bought it. I thought of pulling the complete F22 non-vTEC/ 5 spd out of my Accord & swapping it into the CL, but I understand there are issues with the OBDI/OBDII systems & I want to sell the Accord as a complete running (albeit - wrecked) driveable car.
All that aside, I think I want to swap in an H22/5Spd into the CL. I've got a few questions regarding this swap:
1. Do I need to get an OBDII motor to do this swap correctly? If I understand correctly, I would have to use my original harness from my F22 to make the swap easier. If I am using my original harness, could I move it to an OBDI motor without any major hurdles? What about the ECM?
2. I understand that I need to modify the mounts in this car, since it is an automatic. Will I just purchase Prelude mounts from Honda? Is there some major fabbing to make them work?
3. Will the pedals & all associated clutch lines work from a Prelude in the CL? The CL is basically a '94-'97 style Accord with different cosmetics & some upscale features. Is the Prelude the same firewall/floorpan as an Accord?
4. If I need to get an OBDII style swap, then there is the issue of getting a type SH Prelude setup. Do I want this setup or is it better to steer clear of it. I think it would be a cool setup to have, since I remember reading road tests on it & most writers felt it was a useable feature. I am not looking to build a drag car , this is my "beater" and I would just like it to be fun to drive. When I do this swap, I would like to do it on a weekend, so I can have the car to drive on Monday. Reliability is also key - thats why I drive a Honda!
5. Air conditioning, power steering & emissions must remain in this car. If I get the
compressor/lines & power steering pump/lines with the motor, will they work in the CL?
The real question here is if I buy a complete, running Prelude, can I move everything into the CL with minimum downtime, or am I better off getting a Motor/tranny & purchasing the other needed parts for this swap.
I've done many motor swaps in the past (just finished a '99 Camaro LS1/auto into a '90 Chevy 454SS Truck) & I feel confident that I can do this, but I've never done a Honda swap. I have a friend who owns a shop that specializes in civic swaps, and he had a good bit of info for me, but he doesn't know the specifics for this exact swap. I know he can do GSR swaps into civics in a matter of a few hours.
Thanks in advance for any responses!
I just bought a '97 2.2 CL, but can't stand the automatic tranny. I kind of knew I wouldn't like it, but the price was right & the car is sweet, so I bought it. I thought of pulling the complete F22 non-vTEC/ 5 spd out of my Accord & swapping it into the CL, but I understand there are issues with the OBDI/OBDII systems & I want to sell the Accord as a complete running (albeit - wrecked) driveable car.
All that aside, I think I want to swap in an H22/5Spd into the CL. I've got a few questions regarding this swap:
1. Do I need to get an OBDII motor to do this swap correctly? If I understand correctly, I would have to use my original harness from my F22 to make the swap easier. If I am using my original harness, could I move it to an OBDI motor without any major hurdles? What about the ECM?
2. I understand that I need to modify the mounts in this car, since it is an automatic. Will I just purchase Prelude mounts from Honda? Is there some major fabbing to make them work?
3. Will the pedals & all associated clutch lines work from a Prelude in the CL? The CL is basically a '94-'97 style Accord with different cosmetics & some upscale features. Is the Prelude the same firewall/floorpan as an Accord?
4. If I need to get an OBDII style swap, then there is the issue of getting a type SH Prelude setup. Do I want this setup or is it better to steer clear of it. I think it would be a cool setup to have, since I remember reading road tests on it & most writers felt it was a useable feature. I am not looking to build a drag car , this is my "beater" and I would just like it to be fun to drive. When I do this swap, I would like to do it on a weekend, so I can have the car to drive on Monday. Reliability is also key - thats why I drive a Honda!
5. Air conditioning, power steering & emissions must remain in this car. If I get the
compressor/lines & power steering pump/lines with the motor, will they work in the CL?
The real question here is if I buy a complete, running Prelude, can I move everything into the CL with minimum downtime, or am I better off getting a Motor/tranny & purchasing the other needed parts for this swap.
I've done many motor swaps in the past (just finished a '99 Camaro LS1/auto into a '90 Chevy 454SS Truck) & I feel confident that I can do this, but I've never done a Honda swap. I have a friend who owns a shop that specializes in civic swaps, and he had a good bit of info for me, but he doesn't know the specifics for this exact swap. I know he can do GSR swaps into civics in a matter of a few hours.
Thanks in advance for any responses!