Dustin_m
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Ok, this story is gonna get long, so I'll post some cliffs.
Landlord gets bitch gf, shit starts getting weird.
bitch finds other girls hair in owners bathroom, flips out
owner loses dvd's, accuses & threatens roommates
I send an email speaking my ming, happiness does not ensue
owner says my gf no longer allowed in my room, wtf?
me, on my way to court soon, probably no longer living there
Here's the long story:
I have lived in my current house since November 2006. I rent one room in a 5 bedroom house. The owner/landlord lives in the master, and there are two other guys that live there. One guy has the 2 br upstairs and theres the master and 2 more downstairs.
When I first checked the place out, I asked a bunch of questions. The owner is pretty young, and from everything I asked, it all seemd cool. I told him speifically that my gf was over often, and that we spent most all of our time together. He specifically said that was fine.
ok so everything was cool for the past year and a few months.
Fast forward to late last year, the owner got a steady gf. before that he would bring random hoes home all the time, and have them screaming and all that shit while having sex. That shit is really rude in my book, but apparently he didnt think so. So this guy gets a gf, and shit starts changing. things get reorganized, kitchen stuff is being bought, all kins of weird shit within a few weeks of this bitch being here.
So, I had been renting month to month for a while after my lease was up. I got into a university about 200 miles away, and gave my notice that I was moving. everything was cool, then the plans for school fell through when they wouldn't transfer some classes so I decided to stay. The same day I emailed the landlord and asked if I could stay. He said cool, but he had planned to up the rent. We negotiated a price just a tiny bit more than my current rent, and agreed to do a lease for the last few months. This is where I did go wrong, by signing the lease, but it gets better...
The same day that I handed him the signed lease and got a signed copy from him (mid March), shit starts to hit the fan. That night i was home doing homework, waiting for my gf to get off work to go somewhere and study. I walk out in the hallway to go to the kitchen, and I see a big ass construction paper note on the owners bedroom door.
It read something like this:
No tenants are to use my bathroom. This is the third time that i have found long black hair in my bathroom. I do not appreciate someone else thinking they have the right to go in here. This area is off limits. This ic obviously not sarahs hair, as she is blonde"
below that it had 2 stick figures drawn, one of his gf and one of the mystery person with dark hair that takes showers in his br when he's gone.
I immediately took offense to it, as I'm the only other one with a girl over. My gf does not have dark hair though, more of a light-med brown, this stuff was darker (he taped the hair to the note). So I wrote an email telling him that the note was rude and offensive, and that it needed to be taken down. I also pointed out that it could have been tracked in on someones clothes, shoes, or anything really, and that it also could have been the cleaning ladies who clean his room and bathroom. He didn't respond, but went out and added to the note that he KNEW that it wasn't the cleaning people, and that it was someone here.
ok, so I emailed back that this was basically bullshit and i wasnt going to be made to feel uncomfortable somehwere where i pay rent, he needed to fucking take it down. next time i looked the note was gone. We exchanged a few emails the next day in which he tried to say that this was HIS house and he wasn't about to be disrespected in his own home. I shot bakc a few things that made him end up apologizing for the way he handled it.
Ok, fast forward to last week. He sends an email to all the tenants stating that he is missing dvd's from his collection, which is stored in the living room. No one in the house except for him uses the living room. He has said before that it was cool to borrow dvd's, so we all use them now and then. In this email, he was just asking us to look through our stuff and see if we had any of his. I looked, and had a couple, which i returned and followed up with an email to him stating which ones were returned. One of the other roommates had just moved out, and the other one responded to all of us stating that he didn't have any of the dvd's.
So then a couple days later I get this email:
Note: This is copied directly from the email, spelling/grammar errors and all.
I responded by saying "As I said earlier, I had 2 dvd's and have already returned both of them."
The next afternoon I get an email from him while I was away getting some dinner. My gf had came over and stayed there while i went to Subway. When I got home, this was in my email:
This was complete horseshit, as my gf has went home regularly since I have lived there. I responded:
ToSo that was yesterday. today I get home from work and I have a notice on my door that is a 15 day "cure or quit" notice. States that I have 15 days to either comply with the lease or move out.
He lists the part of the lease I "violated" which says that I can't let friends or family use the house or utilities, and another clause that talks about illegal activities inwhich he puts in that "neither tenant nor tenant's guest may withhold any other tenant's personal property, cause a disturbance, or write on another persons automobile" wtf? I took me a minute to realize that he was specifically blaming me for the dvd's, and that he also said I caused some kind of disturbance, which i never did, and something about writing on an automobile, which I know nothing about.
I've ignored all emails simce that long one I sent, have since contacted people I know who are attorneys, and have found a lawyer who specializes in property law, specifically tenant/landlord disputes. I am going to be giving the attorney a call tomorrow to set up an appointment w/ him
Now, wtf does all of this mean? I want to get the fuck out of there. I have spent some time reading today,a dn have found some legal ways to get out, jst have to find out whats recommended. The way this "15 day notice" thing is worded, it seems as though he may, either intentionally or unintentionally, be releasing me from the lease, as it says that I may choose to just move out instead of complying w/ the lease, but I have to make sure about that.
All of this bullshit boils down to a immature white trash girls insecurity. This trashy ho that he calls his gf is pissed because there is another girl in the house, even though the roommates rarely run into each other because of different schedules. My gf is all pissed about the situation and is not helping out because she is wnting to make decisions based off emotion, which is not the right thing in this situation.
I know I had to have made a bunch of spelling errors here, i don't care. I spent a half hour writing this damn thing, and really didnt even get into that much detail.
So what are your guys' thoughts on this?
I know a lot of the things he has done are illegal, especially breaching the expressed covenant of quiet enjoyment, which states that basically I have the right to enjoy my home without being harrased/bothered/threatened. I plan to attempt getting out of the lease, and also plan to pursue this in court because I feel that I am owed a majority of my rent back, my deposit, and compensatory damages for having to take time our to school and work to deal with this issue, and of course, legal fees.
any thoughts?
Landlord gets bitch gf, shit starts getting weird.
bitch finds other girls hair in owners bathroom, flips out
owner loses dvd's, accuses & threatens roommates
I send an email speaking my ming, happiness does not ensue
owner says my gf no longer allowed in my room, wtf?
me, on my way to court soon, probably no longer living there
Here's the long story:
I have lived in my current house since November 2006. I rent one room in a 5 bedroom house. The owner/landlord lives in the master, and there are two other guys that live there. One guy has the 2 br upstairs and theres the master and 2 more downstairs.
When I first checked the place out, I asked a bunch of questions. The owner is pretty young, and from everything I asked, it all seemd cool. I told him speifically that my gf was over often, and that we spent most all of our time together. He specifically said that was fine.
ok so everything was cool for the past year and a few months.
Fast forward to late last year, the owner got a steady gf. before that he would bring random hoes home all the time, and have them screaming and all that shit while having sex. That shit is really rude in my book, but apparently he didnt think so. So this guy gets a gf, and shit starts changing. things get reorganized, kitchen stuff is being bought, all kins of weird shit within a few weeks of this bitch being here.
So, I had been renting month to month for a while after my lease was up. I got into a university about 200 miles away, and gave my notice that I was moving. everything was cool, then the plans for school fell through when they wouldn't transfer some classes so I decided to stay. The same day I emailed the landlord and asked if I could stay. He said cool, but he had planned to up the rent. We negotiated a price just a tiny bit more than my current rent, and agreed to do a lease for the last few months. This is where I did go wrong, by signing the lease, but it gets better...
The same day that I handed him the signed lease and got a signed copy from him (mid March), shit starts to hit the fan. That night i was home doing homework, waiting for my gf to get off work to go somewhere and study. I walk out in the hallway to go to the kitchen, and I see a big ass construction paper note on the owners bedroom door.
It read something like this:
No tenants are to use my bathroom. This is the third time that i have found long black hair in my bathroom. I do not appreciate someone else thinking they have the right to go in here. This area is off limits. This ic obviously not sarahs hair, as she is blonde"
below that it had 2 stick figures drawn, one of his gf and one of the mystery person with dark hair that takes showers in his br when he's gone.
I immediately took offense to it, as I'm the only other one with a girl over. My gf does not have dark hair though, more of a light-med brown, this stuff was darker (he taped the hair to the note). So I wrote an email telling him that the note was rude and offensive, and that it needed to be taken down. I also pointed out that it could have been tracked in on someones clothes, shoes, or anything really, and that it also could have been the cleaning ladies who clean his room and bathroom. He didn't respond, but went out and added to the note that he KNEW that it wasn't the cleaning people, and that it was someone here.
ok, so I emailed back that this was basically bullshit and i wasnt going to be made to feel uncomfortable somehwere where i pay rent, he needed to fucking take it down. next time i looked the note was gone. We exchanged a few emails the next day in which he tried to say that this was HIS house and he wasn't about to be disrespected in his own home. I shot bakc a few things that made him end up apologizing for the way he handled it.
Ok, fast forward to last week. He sends an email to all the tenants stating that he is missing dvd's from his collection, which is stored in the living room. No one in the house except for him uses the living room. He has said before that it was cool to borrow dvd's, so we all use them now and then. In this email, he was just asking us to look through our stuff and see if we had any of his. I looked, and had a couple, which i returned and followed up with an email to him stating which ones were returned. One of the other roommates had just moved out, and the other one responded to all of us stating that he didn't have any of the dvd's.
So then a couple days later I get this email:
Note: This is copied directly from the email, spelling/grammar errors and all.
I am not sure if my last email was too nice!?!
But I spent about 2 hours organising my DVD section outside and I can tell when people just take things and do not put them back where they belong!
All my movies are in Alphabetical order so by just tossing movies back you are disrespecting my home!!
So please be more considerate of my property and return all DVDs you have "borrowed"
You may think this is as being Anal but I honestly do not care in your feels since it is clear mine are not being taken into account!!
I was raised to respect others and if I "borrow" something I was to return it in it's original condition.
I know in the past I mentioned borrowing them was OK but it seems that I have been taken advantage of and I do not like being made of a fool in my own house!
So please return all movies borrowed!! I am now missing all my Lord Of The Rings movies, and still have not found my American Pie Movies along with Phantom of the Opera and Pirates movies and many others. I have many movies that I purchased from Hollywood Video so they are easy to tell.
I am sure it may not seem like a big deal to be missing DVDs but I paid for them and at this rate I am missing out on $250.00 worth of MOVIES!
And to me that is the same as STEALING!! $250.00 from me, which is grounds for Eviction!!
So please do not take my kindness for granted by walking all over me.
I am doing this through email so hopefully it will get resolved faster and not escalate!!
Again we are all tenants and we all pay rent but once you start disrespecting my home do not think for a second BC rent is paid I will not inform the authorities!! Like I said it's $250.00 of my money!!
Thank you,
Marty
I responded by saying "As I said earlier, I had 2 dvd's and have already returned both of them."
The next afternoon I get an email from him while I was away getting some dinner. My gf had came over and stayed there while i went to Subway. When I got home, this was in my email:
I just wanted to check in and makesure your Gf wasn't staying here?
I wanted to get that out of the way before it became an issue later. The lease states that no one else beside yourself should be living here per the agreement.
I have no problem with guest every now and then but I know that she's lived here in the past and I do not want that to be the precedent. She really shouldn't be here without you here it wouldn't be fair to all the other tenants.
This was complete horseshit, as my gf has went home regularly since I have lived there. I responded:
Yes. Kris is here and was here earlier while I left to go get food.
There shouldn't be an issue at all because she IS NOT LIVING HERE, She
has not EVER lived here, and has no PLANS to live here.
Before I ever moved in here, during our initial meeting when you
showed me the place, I informed you that my girlfriend is over often,
and that we go to school together and do most of our work together.
You specifically said that this was NOT a problem, and that you
understood that just fine. If you would have said that it was a
problem with you, then I would have never moved in here. There are
many times when we spend nights studying at a library or somewhere
else, and just one of our cars is here. She has stayed over for a few
nights at times, but if that is not fair to other roommates, then how
is it fair that your girlfriend comes over without you and also stays
here?
My lease says that only I am allowed to live here, and that is just
what happens. There is nothing in there that says I am not allowed to
have guests. I have every right to have a guest over at my
discretion, and I do NOT plan to stop doing that. Kris being here is
in no way unfair to to other roommates because she does not in any way
interfere with anything.
I'm not sure about you, but I consider living somewhere to mean that
you actually permanently have your belongings there. Do you see any of
her belongings here? No.
I have been living here since November of 2006, and my typical habits
and schedule have not changed. If this was the problem that you say
it is, then why was it never brought up in the last year and a half
that I have been here.
There have been plenty of times that I have came home from work or
school and found that you are having a party or get together with your
friends without any hint of a notice to the other roommates. Many of
these times your friends are parked in the driveway and in front of
the house, leaving me to park down the street. THIS is what I
consider unfair to other roommates.
Also, I have recently had to remove my cookware from the kitchen
because it has been permanently damaged. I do know that Mindows
rarely cooked, and I have never seen Jason cook. Other than myself
this only leaves yourself and your girlfriend to have used them. I
take very good care of my kitchen items, and am careful not to ever
use metal utensils in any pans or skillets. When I removed my
cookware, It had scratches in the teflon coating that my plastic
utensils would not have caused. As of right now, I have 2 skillets
that are scratched through the non-stick coating, and a spatula that
was held on a hot pan and melted from misuse. Just to be clear, I
removed that spatula last week after I saw that you or your girlfriend
used it to cook eggs in one of my pots and left it with burnt cooked
egg all over the bottom. In my opinion, I should be owed new items,
as they were in new condition before they were scratched by someone
elses careless use.
There have also been many times when you have had girls over in the
past and have been "loud" late at night. THIS is what I also consider
to be unfair to others.
I am very careful about the people I bring around my home, and there
have really only been 3 people that I have had over here in the whole
time I have lived here. I can't see how this in any way can be
considered being unfair to the other people that live here.
I work my ass off every day to pay my rent, bills, and personal items.
I have no reason at all to steal movies-I have plenty of my own. I
also don't appreciate you insinuating that other people, including me,
in this house were raised with less morals than you. From the
character you have shown, I think it would be safe to assume you out
of anyone is the one without morals or values, as you seem to think it
is okay to disrespect people for no valid reason.
You seem to think that because the mortgage for this house is in your
name, you can do whatever you want here, and everyone else has to put
up with it. To me this sounds like a spoiled ass little kid that
expects to get whatever he wants while saying "fuck everyone else."
You have already confirmed this type of attitude in you recent emails
by saiying that you really don't care how everyone else feels, and
have made an effort to emphasize that this is YOUR house in an
apparent attempt to make others who live here feel as if they are
unwelcome.
As far as the lease goes, YOU have already broken this lease. You
have already breached the covenant of quiet enjoyment at this point in
time, and I feel that my ability to use and enjoy the premises that I
have leased have been permanently and intentionally harmed by your
repetitive emotional outbursts and threatening notes and emails. I no
longer feel comfortable or safe here at all.
Right now, You are wasting my time. I have a lot more important
things to do right now like schoolwork. On top of working 40 hours a
week, I am taking 3 hard classes in school, and instead of
concentrating on that, I am sitting here having to write this.
Dustin
ToSo that was yesterday. today I get home from work and I have a notice on my door that is a 15 day "cure or quit" notice. States that I have 15 days to either comply with the lease or move out.
He lists the part of the lease I "violated" which says that I can't let friends or family use the house or utilities, and another clause that talks about illegal activities inwhich he puts in that "neither tenant nor tenant's guest may withhold any other tenant's personal property, cause a disturbance, or write on another persons automobile" wtf? I took me a minute to realize that he was specifically blaming me for the dvd's, and that he also said I caused some kind of disturbance, which i never did, and something about writing on an automobile, which I know nothing about.
I've ignored all emails simce that long one I sent, have since contacted people I know who are attorneys, and have found a lawyer who specializes in property law, specifically tenant/landlord disputes. I am going to be giving the attorney a call tomorrow to set up an appointment w/ him
Now, wtf does all of this mean? I want to get the fuck out of there. I have spent some time reading today,a dn have found some legal ways to get out, jst have to find out whats recommended. The way this "15 day notice" thing is worded, it seems as though he may, either intentionally or unintentionally, be releasing me from the lease, as it says that I may choose to just move out instead of complying w/ the lease, but I have to make sure about that.
All of this bullshit boils down to a immature white trash girls insecurity. This trashy ho that he calls his gf is pissed because there is another girl in the house, even though the roommates rarely run into each other because of different schedules. My gf is all pissed about the situation and is not helping out because she is wnting to make decisions based off emotion, which is not the right thing in this situation.
I know I had to have made a bunch of spelling errors here, i don't care. I spent a half hour writing this damn thing, and really didnt even get into that much detail.
So what are your guys' thoughts on this?
I know a lot of the things he has done are illegal, especially breaching the expressed covenant of quiet enjoyment, which states that basically I have the right to enjoy my home without being harrased/bothered/threatened. I plan to attempt getting out of the lease, and also plan to pursue this in court because I feel that I am owed a majority of my rent back, my deposit, and compensatory damages for having to take time our to school and work to deal with this issue, and of course, legal fees.
any thoughts?