Originally posted by Cashizslick+Feb 8 2005, 02:59 PM-->driverunknown@Feb 8 2005, 02:01 PM
Their hatred for us was inevitable, whether we fuck with them or not.
Those radicals have a lot of similarities with Der Fuhrer. Damn.
Yes, they do have a lot in common with the fuhrer. One could argue from a religeous standpoint that they are another group of people doing the will of Satan - to destroy the Jews.
- If you ever read 'Mein Kampf' you will see how Hitler thought he was the anti christ - thats why he wanted to conquer parts of africa and the middle east (Rommel in the Desert). The anti christ is supposed to sit on the throne in the middle east . . . . . thats what Hitler was trying to do.
I'm sorry, but this is a VERY misguided thing to say. You are completely wrong, in fact, most of you are wrong, although, I dont want to start a fight, I think you guys are acutaly covering some good material, so don't let this turn into a hate thread. They don't hate us *BECAUSE* of their religion, they use their religion as an *EXCUSE* to hate us. Radical muslims don't really have anything against people that arn't Islamic (well, they do, but they dont wish them dead). What they hate is how the West has been pushing them arround for the last 200 years. The british controlled that part of the world for a long time, and now the US has a lot of influence there. They hate the west because in comparisson, they have always been the underdog. You don't see them proclaiming that they need to kill the Japanese (who are Shinto, Buhdist, and christian mostly) or Indians (even though there is a lot of bad blood between Hindus and Muslims). NO. They don't hate those countries because those countries have not been forcing them to do their bidding for the last few hundred years. They hate the west for solely political reasons and they are using their religion as a scape goat. Not only does it give them "devine right" but it makes great rally speaches and is very convincing to trick people into thinking that they are doing god's work.
Now, about your Hitler analogy. Hitler was a straight up anti-semite. He hated Jews for being jews, not because they did something to him, but because they were someone to blame for his shortcomings. He truly had no reason for hating Jews, he just did. This is NOT understandable, respectable, or justifiable. **HOWEVER** The radical Islamic hatred of the wes is understandable, respectable, or justifiable. It is. Because I can understand it, and many other americans can understand it. Its not because we share similar views, its because we understand why they could begin to think this way. I don't hate Jews, and cannot relate to Hitler, and I dont think any other non-anti-semite could justify what Hitler did. There in lies the difference between the Islamic Hatred of the West and the Nazi's ideals of Hitler.
I'm sorry for the long post, but you guys need to see the other side some time. Pleas read it all, I know its long (and maybe has incorrect grammar and spelling), but I think I make a valid point. Don't hate, try to understand.