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I declare Cashizslick the winner of this argument. You may all go home now, be careful on the roads. Take care, and thanks for coming !
Good night Cleveland!
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I declare Cashizslick the winner of this argument. You may all go home now, be careful on the roads. Take care, and thanks for coming !
Good night Cleveland!
Overruled.
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Motive; To become wealthy.
Action 1 taken;A man puts on a ski mask, carries a gun, robs a convience store and murders the cashier. He continues his string of crime, robbing and murdering in an attempt to acquire wealth. He's committed immoral crimes and has only been stopped when shot dead by a convience store clerk turned vigilante.
Action 2 taken;A man educates himself, scraping, saving, apprenticing, working his butt off, doing anything to benefit his cause and he gains connections, to the dismay of all of those that come from old money, through his hard work and dedication. He scripes and saves, invests and becomes a millionaire in a relatively short period of time. He's gone from rags to riches.
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I will give you one guess as to which one is closer to the people in power.
THAT is the problem. The corruption in places of power is absolutely mind bending and people ignore it. It's alright to screw the taxpayer to give your buddies a nice fat contract, it's alright to commit an act of TREASON as long as our current motive is justified, it's alright to award tax breaks to the wealthy at the cost of everyone else so long as it gets you the campaign contributions and votes you want, it's alright to axe thousands of American jobs and ship them off to foreign countries to increase your bottom line (and your already oversized salary).
Both sides play the game, the right MUCH MUCH more than everyone else and they love to trumpet the corruption of others while outright smearing and destroying anyone that even implies that their people are corrupt.
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I will give you one guess as to which one is closer to the people in power.
THAT is the problem. The corruption in places of power is absolutely mind bending and people ignore it. It's alright to screw the taxpayer to give your buddies a nice fat contract, it's alright to commit an act of TREASON as long as our current motive is justified, it's alright to award tax breaks to the wealthy at the cost of everyone else so long as it gets you the campaign contributions and votes you want, it's alright to axe thousands of American jobs and ship them off to foreign countries to increase your bottom line (and your already oversized salary).
Both sides play the game, the right MUCH MUCH more than everyone else and they love to trumpet the corruption of others while outright smearing and destroying anyone that even implies that their people are corrupt.
You, down off the soapbox.
You're so blinded by ignorance that everything revolves back to an issue about those in power and money against YOU. The world isn't against you, not everyone is against you. If you like to think pessimistically and cynically then you're going to have a terribley unhappy life.
The issue at hand that we're currently talking about is terrorists, I point out that you deem Blanco the champion of the arguement yet he's the one comparing apples to oranges. Don't let this stop you however to reverting back to your rant about conservatives and how they ruin the world; thats such an intelligent and worthwhile argument.
Battle Pope -
I realize that the patriots were terrorists and did some not so nice things, but the British also did some not so nice things and the punishment during the time was death. Patriots were killed and patriots killed, it was open warfare. The muslim extremists killed innocent people long before any war was declared between both sides of the conflict. I'm not blowing my trumpet or bellowing out how respectful and polite the patriots were, but they went about the issue differently and even when they used force it was more or less socially acceptable at the time, in current times it is not.
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Sure, the Patriots may not have committed brutal mass murders of innocent people, but by and large the Founding Fathers were indeed terrorists. Hopefully, even you can concede to that.
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You, down off the soapbox.
You're so blinded by ignorance that everything revolves back to an issue about those in power and money against YOU. The world isn't against you, not everyone is against you. If you like to think pessimistically and cynically then you're going to have a terribley unhappy life.
The issue at hand that we're currently talking about is terrorists, I point out that you deem Blanco the champion of the arguement yet he's the one comparing apples to oranges. Don't let this stop you however to reverting back to your rant about conservatives and how they ruin the world; thats such an intelligent and worthwhile argument.
We got around to the subject of war again and I said that, contrary to his attitude, I did not think that the common people are very thankful for leaders who bring them war and destruction.
"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."
"There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."
"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
Hey, the IRA doesn't behead people on the internet either. Are you going to say that they're not terrorists either, now? That'd be an apples and oranges comparison, wouldn't it?
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HAHAHAHAHA you just used every general assumption known to man.
My ignorance? Funny, because you didn't list my opinion there at all. I'm not the one that views an intangible source, its you when you think us against them.
I wasn't even going to contribute to this thread, but seriously you need to get everything straight before attempting to make an educated post.
so you wasted that by dropping out of school? i'm sure jesus loves you for that
are you bragging that you are smarter than the other 92% of DROPOUTS ?
cuz i really wouldn't mention that.
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This is utter horseshit. Keep this thread open till I get home later please.
I can't let this "Patriots are Terrorists" bullshit go on any longer, but I have to work.
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You guys really need to stop focusing so much on "oh mah gawdx0rz, j00'r tlaken teh shitz bout teh mohst patriamonotic heroz eva!!!!one"