"FWHP" = Fly wheel HP. I know the s2000 doesn't make 240 WHP, I drive one everyday Apparently so does Riekoshea ( keep the flash alive!) Also the s2000 is gone because the '08's you are seeing have allready been produced ( some assemble required) and there will be NO '09 model. I consider that gone.( but not forgoten) Hell you can still find '07's on the lots new though.
As far as " snoopy loopy 's" comments ( mostly based on sh** he heard ), of course a civic/teg will respond better to an intake than an F20 or K20 for the same reason that was said about 20 posts ago, it's eaisier to extract power from the lower model engines because they weren't pushed to max ( ease of production /reliability were taken into consideration) during development like the F20C and the K20 were. Also a good reason why the K20 doesn't make as much power as the F20C cheaper car means cheaper production, Which Mr. Kevin stated earlier...he just decided to follow it up by saying it was easier to make power with the K than the F WITH BOLT ONS. Then he said The K24,with different internals, which I agreed with even before he said it.
Ok ..lets recap K2E2vin, first you said " easier to make more power from the K20's than the F20" Bolt ons were the arguement. I says no, NOT easier to make MORE power ( 200hp vs 240hp leaves a handicap to make up), while also saying" the lower end K's have more room left to extract power from" then BOTH F20 and K20, which would be the K24 variants. Than you tell me how to make power with a K24 block and F20C pistons and so on( not bolt on as far as I'm concerned, but you backed that up by sayin " these are far from bolt-ons") and I say the same about a recently built F20C with K parts in it. My gripe is the SIMILARITY in the engines, and how they yeild similar results EXCEPT in the exhaust department , so I guess you agree now???? I also just posted how theres really no way to trully compare the two unless they were BOTH in the SAME driveline setup. And of course a K powered EG could eat an s2000 on the track, because on the track, setups are different, WALLLETS are different ( said that earlier too), driver skill/style is different ( said that)...yaddy yadda. Not to mention the EG can shed ALOT more pounds then the s2k.
Fact of the matter is the K and F are basicly the same motors, and if the big guys over at honda spent more time in the shop on the K it would have turned out to be JUST LIKE the F20C ( probally more so the F22 ) engine.
The only way the K can " respond better to mods" is not because the F20 was over developed, its because the K20 was UNDER developed( see above"cheaper means cheaper"). Any one can make up 40 FWHP ( theres that confusing abbreviation again ) in their garage. I can do it in mine too with an F20C. Its almost like someone's saying that another 40 NA hp cannot be drawn from an F20????? Not for the same price and maybe the parts don't make as much power, but with a 40 hp head start, it doesn't much matter does it because someone said earlier that the K was a better swap becuase it was easier to make power with, even though you would allready have a 40 FWHP jump on the next guy. Go to K&N's web site and check there intakes for example; Type S intake- 10.4 HP , s2k- 9.9. Different, yes, but SIMILAR ( getting tired of that word yet? )
I still don't see any proof to back up the caim earilier , so I'm gonna word it the way it should have been;
If you were to swap an F20C (K series drive train of course)and a K20 in to identical EG hatch backs, with Identical BOLT ON PARTS( not bolt in), which one would make more power?
( Answer logicaly, and not like a K20 or F20 fan-boy
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