Radar detection

[MikeBergy]

Originally posted by Tonyd0821@May 5 2004, 10:33 PM
wait...even tho they are illegal, they still sell them?

the ones they sell are only illegal in some states. just like radar detectors are illegal in some states.

 

[phunky.buddha]

to the Aerospace Engineer.

I knew all that stuff too- you can do all kinds of tricks to deflect radar and make yourself almost invisible, but it would take quite a few tricks to do it on a car that has to deal with moving radar from a cop car or a motorcycle. Most of the geometry on planes is used to deflect ground based radar.

I can't recall the name of the car... by Ford- the GT concept thingy. It was in GT2, had the funny triangular exhaust in the top center- that could almost pass for a ground based F117.

 

[randerson165]

Get a Passport 5000, this is a great radar detector for the money, the only one with a 2 line lcd display too !!!

 

[phunky.buddha]

Isn't that one pretty old?

 

[jamesA]

Originally posted by Calesta@May 6 2004, 12:47 AM
Isn't that one pretty old?

 

[MikeBergy]

Moving radar uses the same radar as in stationary mode, it is just hooked into the police cars speed sensor, and takes the signal and adds or subtracts it from the police car's speed, depending on whether the car is going toward or away from the police car. The radar gun only emits one frequency of wave.

 

[tdg]

Nice info, thx for the replies

I dont wanna buy anything online,
But where have those of you who have it get it?
I heard the number 300 gettin thrown around...not a bad price.

Any suggestions for what / where i should get ?

 

[jamesA]

I went to Best Buy and said I want that one. He swiped my credit card and I signed the paper and walked out with it.

 

[MikeBergy]

My friend tried to steal one from walmart, and got sent to jail for a day. I am gonna recommend against that method of aquistition.

 

[E_SolSi]

Originally posted by Tonyd0821@May 6 2004, 01:25 AM
ok...i dont mean to be an ass....

but where could one start his search for a RADAR jammer?

conventions? online?

out of country?

sorry, cops are dicks in my area. they hide out in the most INCONSPICOUS places.

i cant afford to pay any tickets at this point. when I can, I will ditch the jammer hehe

what you are looking for is an ACTIVE jammer
search around... there are a few different models out there

they are not cheap by any means (usually in the $1000 - $1500 area)

unlike passive jammers these do not wait to pick up a signal then reflect it back with a scrambled signal
these constantly emit a scrambled signal
usually they come with or are used with a detector and most have a "snooze" button that you press once you are at a low enough speed to not have to worry
this allows the cop to get a read on you (lessens the chance of getting fucked for having a jammer)

but anyway like i said ... look around there are a few out there

 

[96IntegGSR]

if you have a buddy that works at best buy, employee cost on a pasport 8500 is like 170

 

[CRX-YEM]

you basically looking for a detector with a
Superheterodyne, GaAs FET VCO reciever, if it has anything less it's crap

I love my 8500, saved my ass a few times already.

 

[90crxb18]

Originally posted by Tonyd0821@May 6 2004, 12:25 AM


but where could one start his search for a RADAR jammer?

conventions? online?

out of country?

sorry, cops are dicks in my area. they hide out in the most INCONSPICOUS places.

i cant afford to pay any tickets at this point. when I can, I will ditch the jammer hehe

dude, just drive the limit

 

[Havok]

Originally posted by 90crxb18+May 6 2004, 09:10 AM-->

Tonyd0821

@May 6 2004, 12:25 AM


but where could one start his search for a RADAR jammer?

conventions? online?

out of country?

sorry, cops are dicks in my area. they hide out in the most INCONSPICOUS places.

i cant afford to pay any tickets at this point. when I can, I will ditch the jammer hehe

dude, just drive the limit

fuck that. I always maintain a constant speed of 15 mph over speed limit, minimum. In 5 years of driving, I have never gotten a ticket, I have never even been pulled over.

 

[phunky.buddha]

Originally posted by MikeBergy@May 6 2004, 12:57 AM
Moving radar uses the same radar as in stationary mode, it is just hooked into the police cars speed sensor, and takes the signal and adds or subtracts it from the police car's speed, depending on whether the car is going toward or away from the police car. The radar gun only emits one frequency of wave.

Yes- I was talking about the distinction between stationary ground based radar looking for airplanes and mobile radar that can be hitting you from above/below/side from a cop car. Most of the geometry on a stealth jet is designed to disperse radar that is coming from below so that it's not reflected back to the ground source- you would have a much more difficult time designing something that's able to disperse radar coming at it from all angles.

tdg- if you want to buy a Valentine1, the only way to do so new is to get it directly from V1. They don't sell in stores. They got mine to me in under a week.

www.valentine1.com

 

[reckedracing]

radar detectors are also illegal in PA by the way

and i have heard that most of the jamming devices on the market do not work and are a waste of money

a radar detector is also useful for a cop coming up behind you, or driving in the other direction as you. they usually leave the guns on while they are driving so you can pick up the signal before they get to you...

you can fight radar and laser tickets if you do the research...
just gotta know what to ask when you go to court... like when was the last time you were trained to use this equipment? were you trained with this exact gun? was it foggy? when was the last time the equipment was callibrated? etc etc...
and you can fight laser guns as well... they are made to pick a car out of a group so they are really pinpointed... which can cause problems if lets say the first signal it sent was off the front bumper and then the second signal was off the top of the windshield, or vice versa... this could be enough of a diffrence to completely make the reading invalid and inaccurate...

you just need to get the judge to believe or buy into some of this bullshit to get doubt in his/her mind...

side note... has anyone had any experience with the traffic signal light changers?
i forget the 3 letter abbreviation, but they are sold for fire trucks and other emergency vehicles to change the light before you get to it...
now companies are selling them to private individuals...
just wondering if anyone has tried it... they go for about 4 bills so i doubt anyone on here hates traffic lights enough to shell out that kind of dough..

 

[jamesA]

I dunno where you read that but they are not illegal in PA. at least not according to the state by state chart I saw 3 months ago. Who knows they might have changed the law since then.

 

[reckedracing]

hmmm, maybe not anymore? i lived there with my brother like 2 to 3 years ago and there was a sign along the highway that said they were illegal, and the PA state police had radar detector detectors... and no stores sold them in the state...


hmmm, update....

Aren't radar detectors illegal in a lot of places?
- T.G., Virginia


You still have the right to know when you're under radar surveillance almost everywhere in the US. The exceptions are Virginia, which bans detector use, and nearby Washington, D.C., which bans possession. Canada is much less friendly toward civil liberties. Detectors are banned everywhere except British Columbia, Alberta, and Saskatchewan.

 

[reckedracing]

a little more info on the V1 for you guys that are rich bastards, lol

Does Valentine One have "stealth?"
Is this the same as being VG2 proof?
- H.C., Idaho

The real question is, can V1 be found by an instrument called a "radar-detector detector?"
Good radar detectors, like good AM/FM radios, are super-heterodyne receivers, and they all share a common trait. They receive, but they also transmit a signal; it's called "local oscillator emissions." This transmitted signal can be found by another radio if it's tuned to the right frequency. A radar-detector detector is merely a radio tuned to the right frequency range for most detectors.

VG2 is the most famous of the radar-detector detectors.

A little history: Escort was the first X-K super-heterodyne detector. Jim Jaeger and I invented it, working out of his basement in the mid-seventies. Since then, other detector makers have taken the easy way and copied Escort's frequency scheme, which means they have the same L-O frequency. So VG2 knows right where to tune for them.

The one detector that's apart from the pack is V1. I didn't copy myself. So VG2 misses Valentine One. In our tests, Valentine One is better than all others for VG2-proofing. Our best competitors are pretty good, maybe good enough. Some others resort to a dubious strategy; they switch off their radar protection when they sense VG2 nearby.

Recently, we've been hearing of another radar-detector detector, the Spectre RDD. Used first in Canada, enforcers of detector bans in Virginia and Washington, DC, and the nationwide ban in heavy trucks, surely have this tool on their must-have list. It claims to have been designed specifically "to detect the latest state of the art stealth-type radar warning receivers." Does it find V1? Very likely, according to reports we've been hearing from a few V1 users. One participant in an internet chat room, who claimed to be a Canadian enforcer, said "I've snagged a Valentine 1 already." We've been unable to acquire a Spectre RDD for testing. Until we can do so, be advised that no super-heterodyne receiver is perfectly undetectable, and that includes V1.

 

[CRX-YEM]

that's some cool info, but in all but 2 maybe 3 US states radar detectors are legal, and it's pointless to really need VG2