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STOP THE ILLEGAL ALIENS/CRIMINALS

Discussion in 'Members' Lounge' started by disgruntled_goat, Mar 28, 2006.

  1. disgruntled_goat

    disgruntled_goat Banned

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    Got this email from a friend today, thought I would pass it on to everyone on here:


    Dear Friend,
    Would you please email this Action Note to everybody you know so they can click the action buttons below just like you?
    The U.S. Senate is poised this week to consider several giant amnesties for 12-20 million illegal aliens.
    The only thing that can slow Senators down is massive opposition from their constituents. You don't have to take to the streets and shut down our cities like the illegal-alien supporters are doing across the land. You can counteract the massive pro-illegal protests by helping recruit a large internet army.
    Roy Beck, President


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    People, we need to stop this madness. These people are felons, pure and simple.

    http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=local&id=4031682



    I said it before, and I will say it again.....someone in our government needs to grow some balls and put a stop to this blatant disregard for the laws of the United States.

    1. You may not enter this country illegally.
    2. There are thousands of illegal mexicans in the state of California alone.

    3. FUCK the fact that they have such a shitty life in mexico. Dont make YOUR fucking problems OUR fucking problems.


    I dont get it.....since WHEN is it ok to openly break the law, AND get away with it?????
     
  2. get_nick

    get_nick These snozzberries taste like snozzberries... VIP

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    this is all about business. cheap labor provides for cheaper prices. our government is only worried about short term results.

    my girlfriend was right though. she said, "all this does is cheap labor for now, for us,and when the millions of mexicans get knocked up and have kids, it's cheap labor for them."

    we have to foot the bill in the long run for having them being in our country. bah, fuck the u.s. i'm moving to thailand, on a remote beach. ALONE!!!
     
  3. Celerity

    Celerity Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to the Democratic Push for illegals to be here.

    They should be limited and tracked, with working papers and approvals. This is the Bush idea.
     
  4. SlushboxTeggy

    SlushboxTeggy It's only stupid if it doesn't work VIP

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    McCain and Kennedy are in support of making irish aliens U.S. citizens. thats why they attended their small rally in brooklyn on st. patrick's day and didnt attend the rallies of every other alien group. do you really want to do the jobs they do anyway?


    but honestly i dont see the problem. now contractors will have to pay everyone a fair wage and i might actually have a shot at getting a good paying job over the summer again.
     
  5. disgruntled_goat

    disgruntled_goat Banned

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    While we do need SOME mexicans and illegal immigrants for the jobs that us normal americans wont do....

    we dont need them in the hundreds of thousands like they are now.


    but can you believe it? these mexican teenagers are blocking the freeways and committing crimes by ditching school and causing general mayhem in the streets.....in order for their parents and relative's crimes of entering this country illegally to be made legal.

    aint that some shit?
     
  6. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    The problem here is like a double edged sword.

    One one hand we need some of the 11 million workers and rounding them up would cost a fortune

    On the other had you just set a preicdent in doing this "Fuck the Law, you can stay anyways"

    I say we have a 60 day grace period for illegals to identify themselves and be given temp worker status. After that you start really protecting the boarders and anyone caught in the nation unidentifed or trying to cross illegaly into the nation gets deported, and goes to the very back of the line. They then aren't even allowed to apply for 24 months.

    But for that to work we need to get a good handle on boarder security

    Finally anyone coast breaking the law (other then minor traffic violations) is deported, felons are not alloed to return ever
     
  7. EGProject

    EGProject YEEEEAAHHHHH

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    Well, the problem lies with the fact that instead of employers outsourcing to other countries - they will simply lower wages inside the US to the point where only illegal immigrants would take the jobs. I hate all this immigrant bullshit. Theres a reason why there are borders - and I think there needs to be a 10 foot thick 30 foot high wall between the US and Mexico. Screw Mexifornia and all the liberals. I think that the middle and lower class people of America deserve protection like that.

    Granted, labor laws, minimum wage and unions help - but what happens when huge corporations ditch their $14 an hour work force of unionized workers and go with $6 an hour non-union immigrant help? Companies will have no problem walking out on unions when there is a plentiful supply of workers ready to replace them.

    It's going to be the industrial revolution all over again.
     
  8. disgruntled_goat

    disgruntled_goat Banned

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    Let's hope the Senate does not bow to the liberal bandwagon and the "latino vote" on this one.

    America is a country built by immigrants, but in this day and age, we cannot allow anyone to come over here as they wish.

    And on a more interesting note.....is the way these people are conducting themselves when they disagree with something....

    From what is being shown on t.v., they are acting like a bunch of uncivilized savages. Was watching the news on the huge rally of 500k mexicans in downtown LA this weekend and they were interviewing one fat cow with 4 children and one in the oven and her words were as follows:

    Fat cow with painted on eyebrows: "Dees es not right !! My hosband es illegal alien and he works hard to suppoert hees familee and he should be allowed to stey en amerika."

    Reporter: Where is your husband now?

    Fat cow: "Hee es en jail right now...."
     
  9. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    I was thinking about this myself this morning. Look at what's happening with France.

    This is what happens when a country begins to drift into Socialism. Every time the government goes to make a tough decision it's "do it the way that's easiest for my personal interest group or we'll throw molotov cocktails off of overpasses and fling poo like primates". We need to adopt Israel's riot police tactis. Rubber Bullets for everyone :)
     
  10. driverunknown

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    economics>than people who are afraid of a little work place competition.

    But you guys are right, those pesky immigrants wont pay any taxes
    they will send ALL their money to back to mexico(they wont spend any of it here, not even for themselves, they are aliens, so no need for food, shelter, or clothing) SO no money will go back to the economy and people with decent paying jobs will lose them to aliens, because they can do a better job for cheaper(most slackers with no skills have this mindset).

    Oh and crime....there will always be crime no matter where you go.

    The solution for most of these problems lies in education, but I'm sure you geniuses can figure out why I say that. If you can't then you deserve to be replaced at your workplace by some sunburnt non-English speaking migrant worker from Tijuana that has sold peanuts all his life.
     
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    The simple solution here is to make it law that employers must pay illegal immigrants the same minimum wage that they would pay to an American citizen. This would effectively eliminate an employer's motivation for hiring an illegal over a citizen in the first place.
     
  12. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    better yet make it illegal to employ illegal's on penalty of a felony. regulating wages is like affirmative action.

    I just heard last night that the saying Mexican protestors were chanting while waving the Mexican flag translates to "Our race untied, we can never be defeated"

    and they call America racist...
     
  13. endlesszeal

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    im all for immigrants because i am one. but fucking shit, do it right. get back in line and fucking wait.

    it really pisses me off that they sneak in here and expect to gain citizenship. then throw a fucking fit when it gets denied. it especially ticked me off when they tried to give illegal immigrants drivers licenses.

    i got mine 5 yrs ago, but i had to go through hell to get it because im not a citizen yet. had to go to SF to get new papers and pay 300 for a new green card and all this shit. US roads are already bad with road rage, people cutting lights, etc... it doesnt fucking need 20 million non english speaking drivers speeding and cutting lights too.

    and just a few months ago my close friend couldnt get a job at target as a cashier because an illegal immigrant stole her s.s. number and she had to wait like a month before it got cleared.

    im not racist. im just saying they should wait in line to get citizenship like everybody else and if they want to come here illegally, dont except a lending hand.

    btw, im an asian refugee from thailand. my parents came here when i was 2 mos. from "camps" that were designed to keep them "safe" from the viet-kongs. it was after they provided assistance to the american g.i.s during the viet war. they waited 16 mother fucking years in those hell holes to come. so i think they paid their dues.
     
  14. jeffie7

    jeffie7 Wrong Whole! VIP

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    I dont follow. Guess I shuld be replaced.

    Anyone with an education wont work at some shit job making 5-6 bucks an hour.
    No aliens, and americans with education, that = 10 bucks for a doz eggs and 15 bucks for a gallon of milk. or 300 buck a month to have your trash picked up.

    Bitch work gets done by two types of people. Aliens, or highschool drop outs. Anyone with an education is smart enough to do something else.
     
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    Jeffie you are right you don't have to be replaced. It's those high school dropouts complaining about their jobs being stolen :) You know what's funny, is that I saw that bullshit here in vegas where students walked off school campuses to protest...

    A good 80% were just on the bandwagon, and did not know what was going on. I'm all for freedom of speech and protesting, if protesting needs to be done, but that was just embarassing(sp?) to see how uneducated most of those people were about the whole issue. Stupid kids.
     
  16. BigDaddyLongstroke

    BigDaddyLongstroke Lets Roll

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    The argument that Illegals are needed to do jobs that Americans will not do, is a CRUEL MYTH. It is analogous to the argument that the cotton industry in the old South will fail without "slavery." The cotton industry survived by paying higher wages and giving impetus to mechanical inventions for picking and processing cotton. Low wage illegals depress the natural economic tendency to wage increases and discourage progress in the technological innovations that raise the Standard of Living for all United States citizens.

    The argument that Illegals are not criminals, but just ordinary people looking for the opportunity to earn a living is another MYTH. Anyone breaking the law is committing a crime, and is therefor a criminal by definition. Discrimination against illegality is neither illegal nor immoral. It is the duty of every citizen and the "government of the people."

    The United States should not be a relief valve for economic incompetence and political corruption in the Mexican and some Central and South American governments. This is the publicly stated policy in some of these nations. I know, for I have been there and have heard and read it. I am sure our State Department knows this as well.

    There are serious negative social consequences to the indifferent dilution of a traditional American cultural values that put a high value on personal liberty, education, and citizen participation in the political process. We are already paying a high price for that Federal government indifference, or is it malfeasance? If a physical wall is needed to control Illegal immigration, that is a far more logical application of citizen's wealth, than providing cheap labor for a few unscrupulous businessmen. It also destroys opportunities for youths entering the workforce.

    The first line of national defense is secure national borders. If nothing else, we should have learned that from the loss of the World Trade Center and its 3,000 victims.
     
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    i thought the first line of national security was wire tapping its citizens and monitoring peace activists...?
     
  18. SlushboxTeggy

    SlushboxTeggy It's only stupid if it doesn't work VIP

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    it would take a serious amount of commitment to secure the mexican border. im not saying im against it, but i know from someone else's experience. my dad's friend worked border patrol for 10 years, thought he was doing a great job, and was sending people back in masses by the day. then he came back to the northeast and couldnt believe all the latin americans that were here. he said he honestly felt like he wasted 10 years. it would take reallocation of government funds to secure it properly and in short, a "war on terror" is far more profitable then kicking out some aliens so businesses can pay citizens far more than they were shelling out before.

    its amazing that both construction and oil are reaching all time profit highs while being in "grey" areas and the economy is in the shitter.
     
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    screw it.

    why waste my time, money and breath?

    All I can say is you better put your future children in class after school to "aprender espanol muy pronto"
     
  20. BigDaddyLongstroke

    BigDaddyLongstroke Lets Roll

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    Money. The sad truth that it may be is the most obvious i think. The politicians screaming "national security" are giving the false sense of security or "illusion" if you will to unknown and blind american citizens that our country is secure and/or its main objective is to secure our country from within. A sleep aid for us all so to say. Again this is my own opinion but the real objective is money. These 98 year old ladys are a speck of dust in comparison to the numbers of illegals not contributing to our growing problems here. Washington is convinced that without illegals here, the economy will suffer. That is another argument in itself. They can close the border but they will not. Not that mexico is a threat to us but they do hold a very large number of american jobs and god forbid if we give up those jobs to homeless and youths in our own country.
     
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