b18c1 vs b17

[DAallday]

I've heard that a b17 is faster than a b18c1 gsr. can anyone tell me their input. i know that the b18c1 has more hp and torque but the b17 has a shorter geared tranny. i'm trying to figure out which is faster?

 

[Uncle Buck]

shorter gears can make all the difference in the world.....

 

[AHHVTEC]

if the motor is in the same car the b18c1 gsr motor should be faster. but if your talking about 1993 gsr vs 1994 gsr the 93 will win, because the da was the fastest integra to come to the states

 

[BrutalB83]

I've heard that a b17 is faster than a b18c1 gsr. can anyone tell me their input. i know that the b18c1 has more hp and torque but the b17 has a shorter geared tranny. i'm trying to figure out which is faster?

It depends on what motor/tranny combo you're talking about. If you're using the same transmission on both motors then the B18C1...

 

[DAallday]

what if its a b17 with the b17 tranny and a b18c1 with the b16 tranny?

 

[BrutalB83]

The B18C1 would probably take it. The gear ratios are actually listed in one of the FAQ articles on this site, let me see if I can find them...

 

[BrutalB83]

Here it is: https://hondaswap.com/reference-materials/honda-transmission-specs-29132/

The B16's gearing is definitely shorter, so theoretically the B18C1 with the B16 gearbox should win. You'd want to make sure and get a B16 tranny with the 4.4 final drive though, not all of them have it...

 

[DAallday]

how would i know if the b16 tranny had that final drive?

 

[BrutalB83]

how would i know if the b16 tranny had that final drive?

Look for the code on the transmission. Avoid the Y1. Actually, you'd probably want to avoid anything pre-92 anyway, since they switched to hydraulic actuation in 92, at least for Civics. For Integras they switched to hydro in 94.

What kind of car is this going into?

 

[DAallday]

its a 98 gsr going into a 93 integra.

 

[92civicb18b1]

Remember a b16 trans is going to put you at rather high RPMs at highway speeds. Some people complain about it.......

 

[DAallday]

yeah. i'm not really worried about the high rpms...considering i really don't drive on the highway. i'm just trying to figure out what i need to do for this swap. wireing, and etc...

 

[BrutalB83]

its a 98 gsr going into a 93 integra.

Ah, ok. You're actually going to want a cable-actuated transmission then. Either that or you'll need a conversion kit.

 

[DAallday]

alright. and will this engine just bolt right up?? what about the wireing??