the NSX is getting the boot

[E_SolSi]

Originally posted by Seany-izzle@Jul 12 2005, 07:36 PM
track times tell you more about a car than a 0-60 does.

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and you could have at least put them in order

:fuckyou3:

 

[xj0hnx]

Track times tell you what that driver did in that car.

 

[E_SolSi]

top gear has a profesional driver that drives all of the cars for the test track run
so while driver style and error is still an issue, it is far less of an issue than if there was different people testing each car

 

[dmmd3]

Yeah but look at that list a elise got beat by almost 4 seconds by a 350z. That seems unlikely. Ive also seen a Top geart where the NSX-R ran the same time as the gallardo.

 

[xj0hnx]

Originally posted by dmmd3@Jul 13 2005, 02:08 AM
Yeah but look at that list a elise got beat by almost 4 seconds by a 350z. That seems unlikely. Ive also seen a Top geart where the NSX-R ran the same time as the gallardo.

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Yip, and I don't care how spunky a R32 is, I have a real hard time seeing a SL 55 AMG running the same time. Seen em both in action, and there is no comparison.

 

[phunky.buddha]

Originally posted by pissedoffsol+Jul 12 2005, 09:24 AM-->

hcp:

supposedly, and old concept that enver made it to production. i have no details on specs...

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That looks like an Enzo.

Originally posted by reckedracing@Jul 12 2005, 09:44 AM

nice car...
i would love to see something small like a del slo or s2k with a mid engine huge power plant...

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That angle looks like a 360...

Originally posted by TommyTheCat@Jul 12 2005, 10:15 AM
Just like lexus's new supra should be an ls430h - hybird v8; The new nsx, i wager, will be a hybird v8. They've just started with performance hybrids with the accord, it should go much further in the future.

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I think the NSX successor would have to have a hybrid powerplant.

92b16vx@Jul 12 2005, 04:12 PM
I had an oppotunity to pick up a mid 90's for $21,000.

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Hmm. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......

 

[K2e2vin]

i think those #s depends on the track; because in a Best Motoring race(they use JGTC drivers), the NSX-R was able to beat the Murcielago, a Ferrari(360?), and some other car(Corvette maybe?).

 

[MikeBergy]

Originally posted by Celerity+Jul 12 2005, 10:06 AM-->

MikeBergy

@Jul 12 2005, 11:08 AM
I want an NSX, a 97-99 with the 6-speed and a comptech SC, They go for anywhere from 40-50k, it won't be out of my price range once I graduate (december!!!!),

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ah god.. Whew... lemme catch my breath.....

Ahhhh... to be Young.


I made $120k a year at age 22 and couldn't take on an NSX payment. I couldn't take on a Supra TT payment.

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If you were making 120k a year, and couldn't afford a 50,000 dollar car, you were either
a. buying too muchy crap,
b. drinking too much
c. Smoking too much of your own product.
I can telll you right now that I will have my rc51 and my NSX within 3-4 years.

 

[asmallsol]

Originally posted by E_SolSi@Jul 12 2005, 06:45 PM
these are the lap times from Top Gears test track
http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/powerlaps/

# Maserati MC12 - 1.18.9
# Ferrari F60 Enzo - 1.19.0
# Ariel Atom - 1.19.5
# Porsche Carerra GT - 1.19.8
# Mercedes McLaren SLR - 1.20.9
# Ford GT - 1.21.9
# Ferrari 360 CS - 1.22.3
# Porsche GT3 RS - 1.22.3
# Murcielago - 1.23.7
# Zonda - 1.23.8
# Koenigsegg - 1.23.9
# Noble - 1.25.0
# Gallardo - 1.25.8
# Lotus Exige - 1.26.4
# Chevrolet Corvette - 1.26.8
# Porsche 911 GT3 - 1.27.2
# TVR 350C - 1.27.5
# BMW M3 CSL - 1.28.0
# Dodge Viper SRT-10 - 1.28.5
# MG SV - 1.28.6
# Porsche 911 Carrera S - 1.28.9 (very wet)
# Mitsubishi Evo VIII - 1.28.9
# BMW Alpine Z8 - 1.29.0
# Mercedes CL65 - 1.29
# Alfa 3.7 GTA - 1.30.0
# Subaru Impreza STI - 1.30.1
# Aston Martin DB7 GT - 1.30.4
# Audi S4 - 1.30.9
# Porsche 911 turbo - 1.31.0
# Vauxhall VX 220 turbo - 1.31.3
# Honda NSX Type R - 1.31.6
# BMW M3 - 1.31.8
# Nissan 350Z - 1.31.8
# Mazda RX8 - 1.31.8
# Ford Focus RS - 1.32.2
# Lotus Esprit V8 - 1.32.5
# Audi TT V6 - 1.32.7
# MG ZT - 1.33
# Noble - 1.33.1
# Mercedes SL 55 AMG - 1.33.2
# Volkswagen Golf R32 - 1.33.2
# Volvo S60R - 1.35.0
# Ferrari 575 - 1.35.2
# Alfa 147 GTA - 1.35.6
# Lotus Elise - 1.35.6
# Aston Martin Vanquish - 1.36.2
# Renault Clio v6 - 1.36.2
# Honda Civic Type R - 1.36.5
# Saab 95 hot aero - 1.37.9
# Mazzer - 1.38.0
# Bowler Wildcat - 1.39.4
# Bentley Arnarge - 1.40.8
# Overfinch - 1.44.0

and thats the Type R version of the NSX (265lbs lighter than a regular NSX, stiffer suspension, etc)

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Well with that, it did pretty well, and if they are using the time that they did on the episode that I saw of the NSXR, the track was wet, and it still pulled in a respectable time. The track was designed by Lotus, and on lotus "home turf" the NSX killed it. And you of all people know what a Elise is capable of. Yea its no 500,000 super car, however, it was designed to be light as hell and fast around the corners with striped down everything. Nobel is the same as the elise, however with a 300 hp turbo v6 (although to be fair, Nobel is listed twice) Also, where is the ratical. If I remember right, that pulled the fastest time ever on that track.

 

[asmallsol]

Found one with a longer list of the times with a tad more detail.

1 min 18.9 secs - Maserati MC12
1 min 19.0 secs - FERRARI ENZO ( MUAHAHAHAHAHA )
1 min 19.0 secs - Radical SR3
1 min 19.5 secs - Ariel Atom Turbo
1 min 19.8 secs - Porsche CGT
1 min 20.9 secs - Mercedes-McLaren SLR
1 min 21.9 secs - Ford GT
1 min 22.3 secs - Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
1 min 22.3 secs - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
1 min 22.6 secs - Westfield XTR2
1 min 23.7 secs - Lamborghini Murcielago (2nd run)
1 min 23.8 secs - Pagani Zonda C12 S
1 min 23.9 secs - Koenigsegg CC8S
1 min 24.0 secs - Ariel Atom
1 min 24.8 secs - Mitsubishi EVO VIII FQ-400
1 min 25.0 secs - Caterham R400
1 min 25.0 secs - Noble M12 GTO-3
1 min 25.8 secs -Morgan Aero 8 GT
1 min 25.9 secs - Lamborghini Gallardo e-gear (Wet)
1 min 26.0 secs - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ-320
1 min 26.8 secs - Ferrari 575 HGTC
1 min 26.8 secs - Chevrolet Corvette C6
1 min 26.9 secs - Mercedes CLS AMG -
1 min 26.9 secs - Lotus Exige S2 (Wet)
1 min 27.0 secs - TVR T350C
1 min 27.1 secs - Aston Martin DB9
1 min 27.1 secs - Aston Martin Vanquish S
1 min 27.2 secs - Porsche 911 GT3 (Wet)
1 min 27.3 secs - Spyker C8
1 min 28.0 secs - BMW M3 CSL (Dry/Damp)
1 min 28.2 secs - Lotus Elise Sport 190
1 min 28.5 secs - Dodge Viper SRT-10 (wet)
1 min 28.7 secs - MTM Bimoto
1 min 28.9 secs - Mitsubishi EVO VIII FQ-300
1 min 28.9 secs - Porsche 911 997 Carrera S (Very Wet)
1 min 29.0 secs - Lamborghini Murcielago
1 min 29.0 secs - Mercedes-Benz CL65 AMG
1 min 29.0 secs - BMW Alpina Z8
1 min 29.4 secs - AS One
1 min 29.4 secs - Subaru Impreza WRX STi WR1
1 min 30.1 secs - Subaru Impreza Sti Type UK PPP
1 min 30.4 secs - Aston Martin DB7 GT
1 min 30.9 secs - Audi S4
1 min 31.0 secs - Porsche 911 Turbo (Wet)
1 min 31.3 secs - Vauxhall VX220 Turbo
1 min 31.6 secs - Honda NSX Type-R (Wet)
1 min 31.8 secs - BMW M3
1 min 31.8 secs - Mazda RX-8
1 min 31.8 secs - Nissan 350Z
1 min 32.5 secs - Lotus Esprit
1 min 32.8secs - Honda Civic Type R
1 min 32.9 secs - Noble M12 GTO (Wet)
1 min 32.9 secs - Seat Leon Cupra
1 min 33.2 secs - Mercedes SL 55 AMG (Wet)
1 min 33.2 secs - Honda NSX Type-R (Wet)
1 min 33.3 secs - VW Golf R32
1 min 33.7 secs - MG ZT260
1 min 33.7 secs - VW Golf GTI
1 min 33.8 secs - Ford Focus RS (32.2secs)
1 min 34.0 secs - Renault Megane 225
1 min 34.9 secs - Lotus Elise 111S (Wet)
1 min 35.0 secs - Volvo S60R
1 min 35.2 secs - Ferrari 575 Maranello (Wet)
1 min 35.6 secs - Alfa Romeo 147 GTA
1 min 35.8 secs - Citroen C4 vts
1 min 36.2 secs - Aston Martin V12 Vanquish (Wet)
1 min 36.2 secs - Renault Clio V6 MKII (Wet)
1 min 37.0 secs - Porsche Boxster (Wet)
1 min 37.3 secs - BMW Z4 (Wet)
1 min 37.4 secs - Honda S2000 (Wet)
1 min 38.0 secs - Maserati 3200GT (Wet)
1 min 38.0 secs - Honda Civic Type R
1 min 39.0 secs - Subaru Impreza WRX
1 min 40.0 secs - Bentley Arnage T (Wet)

 

[E_SolSi]

not 100% sure what elise they tested there
but the exige (basicly a "type R" version of the elise) scored very well

# Lotus Exige - 1.26.4

and

We only list road-going cars, so the F1 car (0.59.0), Aston Martin DBR9 (1.08.6) and Sea Harrier (0.31.2) are not on the board.

 

[MikeBergy]

Originally posted by E_SolSi@Jul 12 2005, 09:41 PM
not 100% sure what elise they tested there
but the exige (basicly a "type R" version of the elise) scored very well

# Lotus Exige - 1.26.4

and

We only list road-going cars, so the F1 car (0.59.0), Aston Martin DBR9 (1.08.6) and Sea Harrier (0.31.2) are not on the board.

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Are we talking about the VTOL jet? or is that a joke?

 

[E_SolSi]

no clue... havent seen all of the episodes

 

[MikeBergy]

Astonn Marton DBR9 = fwapfwapfwapfwapfwapfwap right up there with the Audi R8

 

[reikoshea]

They need to retest those cars that were under wet conditions. It is a sin to have an NSX that close to an RX-8. I dont even like the NSX, but i know it would eat an RX-8 for breakfast.