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So the reason you don't want to own a gun is because our liberal government has made it inconvenient. Hmmm.I have 0 desire to carry a gun with me on a day to day basis.
If there comes a time where i need to use it, chances are, the other guy already has a gun pointed at me anyway, so reaching for it is out of the question.
That, and there's too much red tape involved.
Sounds like CT police shouldn't be allowed to carry guns. I've never had a problem in AK. You tell the officer that you have a gun, he says "ok don't take it out into the open and I won't have to shoot you" then the stop proceeds as usual. Officers up here actually tend to respect you more if carry a weapon as long as you don't have felonies/warrants.get a speeding ticket while packing, and a 15 min ordeal turns into 5 guns pointed at your head and an hour stop.... and that's if you don't get a rookie.
NY state has given campus security the power of state troopersnothing would have prevented this. if there was security, they would have been shot to. i have attended 4 colleges and none of the security had guns.
And for the comments about not being trained / prepared for carrying. I am positive there are police officers that the only time they pick up there weapon it is to qualify. Just some thing to think about.
Ok now i am not normally one to chime in on things of this nature but i have to agree with steve here. If there was one other person in that campus that was "carrying" this could have ended alot better than it did. I for one think that everyone should carry a gun but it shouldn't be concealed like how it has to be in most states. For example look at texas, do you ever hear of acts of violence like this happening there no you don't why you say well that is because every body and i mean everbody walks around with a gun down there. if eveybody carried them and they were in plain sight at all times there would be less random shooting because people wouldn't be so dumb as to pop someone in the head when 20 other people around you have a gun that are gonna shoot if some one where to open fire in a public place. Cops cannot be everywhere at every moment of the day. and this is why you need to take your personal protection into your own hands.
And how long do you think he would have lasted up there had he been in an armed populace?Where to begin here.
The first major campus shooting happened in Texas. The gunman that took the tower and shot 11 people down with a rifle and was up there for quite awhile before he was stopped.
Don't under estimate the stupidity of the laymen. Guns won't stop crimes from happening, they'll mean that people are just that much more likely to solve their problems via force or retaliate to problems.
And what if no one on the campus had a means to defend themselves allowing the attacker to kill as many people as he wished? O wait, that's what happened.Sure what if someone was carrying on that campus and what if they shot and missed the gunman and killed an innocent bystander. How would the situation be then? You have to look at both sides of the coin.
It definitely would have ended sooner. I can't think of a single reasonable senario where an armed student would have made the situation worse. If he missed 5 times and accidentally killed 5 innocents (extremely unlikely) before bringing the attacker down, 20 some peoples lives would still have been saved.The situation may have ended sooner if someone happened to be carrying a weapon but just as easily it could have ended worse.
Obviously it varies by person based on their amount of experience and skill with their weapon.Whats the statistic about the percentage of shots missed, compared to those fired when the shooter is in a face to face situation and confronted. Its pretty damn high.
IMO too many people's only experiences with guns are the gun bashing liberal media stories that never seem to report on the thousands of times that armed citizens prevent crimes and save livesAlso, you have to be able to pull the gun without being seen in the first place. Too many people watch too many movies and think that they're the ultimate action hero and can save all.
In my experience the mere sight of a gun makes an assailant very submissive and eager to explore more peaceful alternatives.I'm not anti-guns, I think they're fine when they're used to hunt with but not for protection. It scares me that a small guy like Steve carries a gun, because what would he do if a big guy were about the wail on him?
Sounds like someone has been watching too many action movies without any real life experience.The situation would then escalate to a level of life or death - which isn't a good situation and its difficult to tell how someone will act when faced with that situation.
couldn't disagree more. It sounds cliche, but were it not for the armed citizen, this country would not exist. So the right to keep and bear arms was only meant to be temporary? How many other constitutional rights are you willing to put an expiration date on?Guns had a time and place and thats not on college campuses or in large cities, its for hunting and providing for your family not so the average schmuck that is insecure and feels the need to have a lethal weapon for protection at his or her disposal.
Someone in the VT administration is to blame.
If emails were sent out to cancel classes right when gunshots were first heard from the "gunman on the loose" (at 7:15), then all those classrooms could have possibly been empty. The delay of these important emails from the administration directly cost 30+ innocent lives.
edit: We didn't receive ANY emails of any shooting activity until 9:26... after the executions in Norris Hall had taken place and entire "massacre" was already done and over with.
But hey, it could happen anywhere, I suppose...