bye bye Clinton...Bama for prez

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Silverchild79;1023531Seriously do you even understand how our government (is supposed) to function?[/quote said:
And herein lies the folly. No, none of the liberals can. If they did, they would be conservative.

Obama is a marxist. Look at his voting and political stance. He's marxist. Even the superdelegates know this.

Hillary is so hungry for power that she'll abandon her retorts immediately after making them, saying that she will be a VP if asked to do so. I've got LIBERALS who are saying she's completely nuts.

McCain is a POW who stood for years of torture rather than turn his back on the US, served a distinguished career in government, and crosses party lines to represent his constituents. He's not as far right as I would like, but as far as doing his job - he's doing quite well.

The others aren't even lawmakers. Clinton and Obama are figureheads. They don't even show up for work. They have proven time and time again that they are in it for the power. They pander and get caught in numerous lies, and they continue unabashedly to lie and pander.

And who is making issue with the inherited family company position of who's wife ? That's ridiculous. Hillary's husband got caught perjuring more than 5 times to a senate committee, lying under oath and fighting for the wrong team in Bosnia. Obama's wife is, as he, connected to the black panthers and they subscribe to a church that preaches against "whitey".

And McCain's wife has a career in beer ?

That's it. That's the strongest anyone has to come up with McCain ? No one is making issue with his breaking from his party on matters of gun control, foreign policy, or domestic trade issues ?

Personal attacks are the primary and secondary weapons of the moonbats. No, they do not understand how government works, and they don't want to. They want to vote to feel good about something. "Our first black president" or "Our first female president". There is no other substance from their decisions, because any further perceived substance is immediately crushed by their candidate's voting records.

As far as Brian's decisions, opinions and thoughts as to what freedom is, what universal healthcare is, or anything about the equally Moonbat Ron Paul - Also, founded with out the slightest clue of fact or reasoning.
 
And who is making issue with the inherited family company position of who's wife ? That's ridiculous. Hillary's husband got caught perjuring more than 5 times to a senate committee, lying under oath and fighting for the wrong team in Bosnia. Obama's wife is, as he, connected to the black panthers and they subscribe to a church that preaches against "whitey".

And McCain's wife has a career in beer ?

Again, Cel. Teresa Heinz Kerry.

Elephants aren't supposed to forget.
 
And herein lies the folly. No, none of the liberals can. If they did, they would be conservative.

The folly lies in that I know how it is SUPPOSED to run. However that is different from how it does run.

Obama is a marxist. Look at his voting and political stance. He's marxist. Even the superdelegates know this.

Typical conservative fear mongering.

Hillary is so hungry for power that she'll abandon her retorts immediately after making them, saying that she will be a VP if asked to do so. I've got LIBERALS who are saying she's completely nuts.

Tack one more to that particular list.

McCain is a POW who stood for years of torture rather than turn his back on the US, served a distinguished career in government, and crosses party lines to represent his constituents. He's not as far right as I would like, but as far as doing his job - he's doing quite well.

Cue the soft, cuddly music and colorful part of the ad.

The others aren't even lawmakers. Clinton and Obama are figureheads. They don't even show up for work. They have proven time and time again that they are in it for the power. They pander and get caught in numerous lies, and they continue unabashedly to lie and pander.

Just like McCain didn't show up to vote for the GI bill... or the Hagee/Parsley thing.

Personal attacks are the primary and secondary weapons of the moonbats. No, they do not understand how government works, and they don't want to. They want to vote to feel good about something. "Our first black president" or "Our first female president". There is no other substance from their decisions, because any further perceived substance is immediately crushed by their candidate's voting records.

And fear mongering is the weapon of the crusaders. They also vote EXACTLY along that line. Can't vote any other way... terrorists will kill us!
 
Because that's all you need to lead a country, right? Military experience. Our current leader has "military experience".

Nobody was speaking of his military experience, we were speaking of his experience regarding suffering, which you questioned, then as soon as you didn't have a leg to stand on you quickly switched to berating him for serving his country?

Andrew Jackson used to shoot people like you for treason
 
Nobody was speaking of his military experience, we were speaking of his experience regarding suffering, which you questioned, then as soon as you didn't have a leg to stand on you quickly switched to berating him for serving his country?

Suffering != struggling. See, now you're mixing two things. Read the quote YOU put up from Obama. Read your own words and see where YOU mix the definitions to fit your needs.

Andrew Jackson used to shoot people like you for treason
Hitler hired people like you for generals.
 
My influence and what influences me rest HEAVILY in the tech sector so when I see things like this:

Previewing McCain and Obama on geek issues

Where McCain chose "Chuck Fish, an attorney for the McCain campaign and former Time Warner executive", an attorney and executive to one of the most technologically repressive industries on this planet... it makes me wonder. McCain is in bed with even more lobbyists it would seem!

Who did Obama choose? "Daniel Weitzner, an MIT computer scientist and technology adviser to the Obama campaign".
 
wow, I can't even begin to comprehend how clueless your are Sabz, are you just stumbling across arguing points hoping you'll stumble across something that holds water?
 
wow, I can't even begin to comprehend how clueless your are Sabz, are you just stumbling across arguing points hoping you'll stumble across something that holds water?

I'm not the one mixing struggling in America with being tortured overseas to make a point.

But you two keep in the dreamy land... at least the machine sounds nice when you slam the pedal like that.
 
look man, let's just take a break for a couple weeks, go and get together some decent arguments based on reality

stop
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and then we'll try again
 
look man, let's just take a break for a couple weeks, go and get together some decent arguments based on reality

stop
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and then we'll try again

Is it only a dead horse because I'm beating it? From what I can see in this thread it was you starting up all the fire with the images and talks of Mickey Cain in New Orleans.

But yes, a stop is good... take it to the Views where we don't have to stop :D
 
I'm going to vote obama.

A. He was a lawyer. He taught law you jackasses.

B. Why are all the republican's married to big business?

C. My family is on these socialist communist left wing nut job programs. And it puts a roof over my mom's head and food in her cupboard.

D. McCain's too old. He's out of touch with america. He's 70. Older than my grandpa. I forget which old ass, out of touch republican said it, "McCain is too old to be president." Before he was the presumptive nominee. Now He's endorsed because he's republican.

E. Fresh faces. New Blood. Change.

F. Screw the 2001 and 2003 taxcut. My old man makes a fortune and he doesn't even agree with them.

G. My mom needs health care. I can't afford it right now.


I like McCain a lot. He's great. He's super moderate. He reaches across the spectrum. He knows his politics and he's a war hero.

I like Obama more. He's new blood. He's charismatic and he's untainted. If you don't find him inspiring, read his book.




I guarantee I will get retorts saying the same thing about Hitler's book Mein Kampf and many other horrendous leaders across the board, including the born again christian, ex alcoholic, crony, aka george w.
 
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A. He was a lawyer. He taught law you jackasses.
teaching law about torts and divorce aren't going to help you run a country. does anyone know what kind of law he practiced?

B. Why are all the republican's married to big business?
it's his 2nd wife.... and he was already in politics before he married her.

C. My family is on these socialist communist left wing nut job programs. And it puts a roof over my mom's head and food in her cupboard.
yup, and pulls it form my pocket for working 12 hours a day to feed you. get your own damn job and support yourself.

D. McCain's too old. He's out of touch with america. He's 70. Older than my grandpa. I forget which old ass, out of touch republican said it, "McCain is too old to be president." Before he was the presumptive nominee. Now He's endorsed because he's republican.
ron paul is 78. 70 isn't that old. my grandpa is 84 and is a bigger pimp at the senior center than anyone else i know, of any age. cooks tuesdays, wed square dancing, thurs he is the chair person at the american legion, friday he does his chores/shopping. the guy is nuts. more active than most 18 year olds. still drives fine, still has his head.
age is relative to your health.
mccain doesn't look like hes about to keep over, so i don't think age will be a problem.
E. Fresh faces. New Blood. Change.
fresh faces? neither mccain or obama are fresh. they've both been in gov't for many years. obama is only fresh to you because you never heard of him before 2007.... which means, he really wasn't important then... or now for that matter.

Change.

i keep hearing this shit.

and all i hear everytime i hear that is cash registers and change falling into it out of my pocket to feed the lazy, buy esclades for the thugs, starter jackets for the 1st graders, and coke for the single moms.

What happened to the American Dream? ya know, the one where if you come to America and work your ass off, you can live a nice life?

oh, yeah.... democrats killed it by giving handouts.
fucking FDR.... :bash:

F. Screw the 2001 and 2003 taxcut. My old man makes a fortune and he doesn't even agree with them.
then your dad doesn't know how these things work.

when company owners get a break, they can
a) keep prices down
b) pay their staff better
c) pocket it

the tax cut is a means, but it is not the end. ethics comes into play as well.

G. My mom needs health care. I can't afford it right now.
your mom needs to go on medicare if old enough, or file disability if shes disabled. if shes not one of those 2, she needs to get a job with benefits (its not hard to find... mcdonalds offers 'em to full timers) and STFU.
if your dad is so rich, why doesn't he help her out? why should I have to help her when her (ex?) spouse won't even do it?

Why should I have to pay for your mom?
The answer is, I shouldn't. And when i'm down, no one should pay for me either.

If you don't find him inspiring, read his book.
i find him annoying. he pauses after every 3 words... can't even speak a full sentence without stuttering.
 
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teaching law about torts and divorce aren't going to help you run a country. does anyone know what kind of law he practiced?

He specialized in Constitutional Law.

it's his 2nd wife.... and he was already in politics before he married her.
So much for the sanctity of marriage. Seriously though, I jest. My issue with Minnie isn't with her directly, it's how now that the Heinz shoe is on the other foot, it's all different now.

yup, and pulls it form my pocket for working 12 hours a day to feed you. get your own damn job and support yourself.
There's always the chance that she cannot get a job. I know a couple of people like that. The story's different for everyone. However for slackasses, yeah, get a goddamn job.

ron paul is 78. 70 isn't that old. my grandpa is 84 and is a bigger pimp at the senior center than anyone else i know, of any age. cooks tuesdays, wed square dancing, thurs he is the chair person at the american legion, friday he does his chores/shopping. the guy is nuts. more active than most 18 year olds. still drives fine, still has his head.
age is relative to your health.
mccain doesn't look like hes about to keep over, so i don't think age will be a problem.
fresh faces? neither mccain or obama are fresh. they've both been in gov't for many years. obama is only fresh to you because you never heard of him before 2007.... which means, he really wasn't important then... or now for that matter.
Agreed.

Inevitable. Except from vending machines. (too lazy to scroll up)

i keep hearing this shit.
Like that four minutes to save the world song? Why do they only have four minutes? Why are they singing and not saving the world? (Still too goddamn lazy)

and all i hear everytime i hear that is cash registers and change falling into it out of my pocket to feed the lazy, buy esclades for the thugs, starter jackets for the 1st graders, and coke for the single moms.
And I hear about "faith based initiatives" and see multimillion dollar churches and hear about how the Catholics are the great whores.

What happened to the American Dream? ya know, the one where if you come to America and work your ass off, you can live a nice life?

oh, yeah.... democrats killed it by giving handouts.
fucking FDR.... :bash:
It exists. It requires one to work off the quantity of one ass, however a nice life is still the reward.

Earning what you have is the American dream. Knowing you earned it is the American pride.

then your dad doesn't know how these things work.
Between you two.

when company owners get a break, they can
a) keep prices down
b) pay their staff better
c) pocket it

the tax cut is a means, but it is not the end. ethics comes into play as well.
Fortunately my company chooses B. It's why I stay there and work my ass off (see American Dream).

your mom needs to go on medicare if old enough, or file disability if shes disabled. if shes not one of those 2, she needs to get a job with benefits (its not hard to find... mcdonalds offers 'em to full timers) and STFU.
if your dad is so rich, why doesn't he help her out? why should I have to help her when her (ex?) spouse won't even do it?
Between you two again. However I wouldn't wanna be paying for my ex. She wouldn't pay for me.

Why should I have to pay for your mom?
Why should anyone pay for services they don't use? Taxes aren't a'la carte. Be nice if they were.

The answer is, I shouldn't. And when i'm down, no one should pay for me either.
However we do. If you become unemployed, you can draw some cash at the low cost of applying for jobs. Why is it so easy? Because you pay from your check money for others to use when they become unemployed. Think of it as insurance. In-Case-Shit payments.

Just don't think you can do this forever. We're helping you back on your feet, not to pack your bowl, know what I mean?

i find him annoying. he pauses after every 3 words... can't even speak a full sentence without stuttering.

I guarantee I will get retorts saying the same thing about Hitler's book Mein Kampf and many other horrendous leaders across the board, including the born again christian, ex alcoholic, crony, aka george w.
You obviously haven't read anything by William Shatner.
 
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dude, I almost made my boss call me in her office, I was laughing so hard. I couldn't breathe.
 
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