Since none of the liberals will...

[Sabz5150]

Originally posted by 92b16vx@Jan 31 2005, 02:20 PM
Do you ever feel like a puppet, because you are. Just a different kind.

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We all are

 

[GSRCRXsi]

i havent followed the elections (minus what i occasionally catch on the daily show) cause frankly i couldnt care less, but who picked the candidates? we pick them? iraquis pick them? random people that said "hey i want to run"?

 

[Guy]

Originally posted by 92b16vx@Jan 31 2005, 02:20 PM
Imagine the horror all those people living in fear of getting shot while buying gas, or shopping, or going to school, what a horrible place that must be.....oh wait aminute, that's "free" America huh? oh damn.

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Thats funny, I dont remember ever saying that America was free. Though I'd still like to hear what the criteria for "free" elections are.

 

[Outlandish_Bandit]

Ok honestly, I think that you need to take aminute and reread your posts... John was merely trying to point out that the Iraqis had a chance to make the voices heard. This is a major step towards getting this country back on its feet. I think its funny that someone who gets his news off the internet is arguing with a guy who -was fucking there-. but oh well, what do I know? Oh, by the way Guy, http://www.evergladesrealestate.com Check out my property for sale!

 

[MaaseyRacer]

Originally posted by 92b16vx+Jan 31 2005, 11:20 AM-->

MaaseyRacer

@Jan 31 2005, 07:42 PM
I wonder which puppet is going to win?

Amid Praise, Doubts About Nominee's Post-9/11 Role:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...-2005Jan30.html

Not quite without a hitch:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200501/s1292228.htm

Incentive to vote:
http://www.sbsun.com/cda/article/print/0,1...2682065,00.html

Regardless of who wins there is going to be a lot of shit still:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/ir...-home-headlines

Oh and this will be a another great CNN moment:
http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/39526.htm

and finally what Aljazeera has to say about this:
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/B49...1461071FEAA.htm

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Do you ever feel like a puppet, because you are. Just a different kind. I mean really, did you even read all those articles? Or just Google and paste. The Al Jazzera one is only saying that there is no official count yet, and the first one barely mentions the elections.

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Honestly did you read those, check it out I will sumerize this for you as you are not going to read them. First one is about the policy and future outlook of the elections. Second one brings up the elections in the first sentace, and brings up the possibility of irregularities in the Iraqi election process. Third one is an open ended opinion article about how the incentive to get the US out of their country is an incentive to vote. Fourth one is another opinion piece about how the elections are not really going to change anything. And the fifth one it appears you actually read. So which ones again do not mention topics related to this election?

 

[ahedau]

Originally posted by Blanco@Jan 31 2005, 06:10 PM
Now, can we drop the partisan crap and just hope that we can apply that $1 billion a week to something useful to Americans?

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I agree 100% (with that part). You guys should see the size of my credit card debt!! I'm an American, we can start there!!!!!!

 

[xj0hnx]

Originally posted by MaaseyRacer@Jan 31 2005, 09:48 PM
Amid Praise, Doubts About Nominee's Post-9/11 Role:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...-2005Jan30.html
 
Takes me to a login in screen for Washington Post, not going to join to read an article

Not quite without a hitch:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200501/s1292228.htm

An account of some issues that arose due to lack of supplies, and a couple voters that didn't understand that ballots. It's a war torn nation with a high illiteracy rate, sue em, they aren't perfect

Incentive to vote:
http://www.sbsun.com/cda/article/print/0,1...2682065,00.html

This is a good one. Not even about the elections, but instead a Sunni that is going to run in the election because now the Shiites can get control of his region. Along with realizing that getting involved with the process can get rid of Americans more effectively than trying to blow them and other Iraqis up. Relevence factor to the elections? None.

Regardless of who wins there is going to be a lot of shit still:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/ir...-home-headlines

Well, in a country run and torn by religious division, what will make it work? Got some ideas? No one on the planet was expecting the country to bloom into peace and prosperity overnight because they had elections.

Oh and this will be a another great CNN moment:
http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/39526.htm

Maybe you can shed some light on your posting this one. A city official that is happy about elections even though he could be killed, he still supports it, thanks for posting it.

and finally what Aljazeera has to say about this:
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/B49...1461071FEAA.htm

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Honestly did you read those, check it out I will sumerize this for you as you are not going to read them.  First one is about the policy and future outlook of the elections.  Second one brings up the elections in the first sentace, and brings up the possibility of irregularities in the Iraqi election process.  Third one is an open ended opinion article about how the incentive to get the US out of their country is an incentive to vote (92b16vx says:just touching on this one here too, no it isn't, it's about a guy who is running for office because he sees it as a way to get rid of America. Read your links).  Fourth one is another opinion piece about how the elections are not really going to change anything(92b16vx says:Sorry, have to butt in here again too. Once again, no it isn't. Did you even read these? Here let me pull a section of it out here..." Fadel acknowledged that many in his country appear ungrateful for America's foreign assistance. He said most Iraqis are still in "shock" over the changes, and need time to adjust.

Any public monument to Bush is likely to further incense terrorist forces, who have attacked American troops and their supporters for months.

Fadel said he is undaunted.

"We have a lot of work and we are especially grateful to the soldiers of the U.S.A. for freeing our country of tyranny," No where does it display distress about nothing working out, hell it's optimistic if anything)
" And the fifth one it appears you actually read.  So which ones again do not mention topics related to this election?

I am trying to understand your point, but you aren't making one. Are you glad they had the elections, and they went off without the street flowing in blood? Do you think it's good that a nation as fucked up as this one had a chance for it's people to give a hand in their own future, and had the balls to stand up and do it in the face of possible death?

 

[ahedau]

Do you think it's good that a nation as fucked up as this one had a chance for it's people to give a hand in their own future, and had the balls to stand up and do it in the face of possible death?

No, he doesn't. He said the "...means doesn't justify the ends..."

 

[Cashizslick]

Im surprised that some of you still find reason to down on this monumental day.

The Iraqi people are participating in the greatest political process ever - did YOU see their faces on the news? Everybody was smiling and the lines to the polling places went for miles. . . .

I'd Say that many of you STILL are trying to find reasons to condem our efforts in Iraq. Im not saying i like the fact that our men and women are over there giving their lives for this, but if any of you really "Support our Troops" then you will support what they are doing.

 

[Sabz5150]

Originally posted by Cashizslick@Jan 31 2005, 10:56 PM
Im surprised that some of you still find reason to down on this monumental day.

The Iraqi people are participating in the greatest political process ever - did YOU see their faces on the news? Everybody was smiling and the lines to the polling places went for miles. . . .

I'd Say that many of you STILL are trying to find reasons to condem our efforts in Iraq. Im not saying i like the fact that our men and women are over there giving their lives for this, but if any of you really "Support our Troops" then you will support what they are doing.

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I support the troops. However I do not support the administration. If they didn't lie to us as to why we went there, I would have been cool with it. Of course I do not remember anything said about planning elections and democracy, only about sarin and VX gas and WMDs.

Tell us the goddamned truth.

 

[Celerity]

Originally posted by Sabz5150@Jan 31 2005, 11:19 PM
Of course I do not remember anything said about planning elections and democracy, only about sarin and VX gas and WMDs.

Tell us the goddamned truth.

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We went there to oust Saddam. Listen better.


-> Steve

 

[Sabz5150]

Originally posted by Celerity+Jan 31 2005, 11:33 PM-->

Sabz5150

@Jan 31 2005, 11:19 PM
Of course I do not remember anything said about planning elections and democracy, only about sarin and VX gas and WMDs.

Tell us the goddamned truth.

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We went there to oust Saddam. Listen better.


-> Steve

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Why? Because he was a threat to the US with his WMDs.

He wasn't.

 

[cycloneb18c3]

yea, I almost lost my breakfast this morning while reading the news paper. I was sitting there reading about the elections, and I flip the page over, and blattttt!!! theres a picture of a dude that got shot in the face at the elections. there was blood all over his face, and his guts were showing(dont know what it was, it looked like a part of his nose or something) and he was pretty messed up. i almost hurled....
they shouldnt put stuff like that in the newspapers.....
anyway, it said next to the picture, that the guy is actually expected to survive.
and Im actually pretty used to seeing this kind of stuff, being a firefighter, and seeing car accidents and stuff, seeing people that are mangled usually dosent affect me.....

 

[MaaseyRacer]

We went in to find WMD's there were not any. Oh and all I am trying to say is that, great we held elections what is going to change? Allawi who is our boy is probably going to be in power. Kinda similar to this guy we put in power years ago, what was his name again, oh yeah Sadam. Are we bringing our family members and loved ones home anytime soon? Probably not. Is shit still hitting the fan? Yes. It is like the "end of the occupation" last year, great we are still there, we put our puppet Allawi in charge, but he answers to us. Nothing has changed.

 

[xj0hnx]

Learn about the process and how it is going to work before you assume something.

This isn't about WMD, I guess it just goes to show that some people really want to just hate.

 

[Cashizslick]

Originally posted by Blanco@Feb 1 2005, 02:39 AM
But this was about WMDs and the imminent threat they posed to America. The unproked invasion of a Sovereign State and torture are both violations of International Law.

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lo, i dunno weather to laugh or cry.

You think iraq under sadaam was a sovereign, well governed, happy place?

This was not just about WMD. This was and still is about liberating people from the injustices they have faced for years under a totalitarian govt. I dont know why you all hate this so much - we have done a good thing over there and we as AMERICANS should be glad that other people get to participate in democracy and enjoy freedom as we have for over 200 years.

 

[reckedracing]

get a look at halliburton's P and L and you'll see who's enjoying democracy and freedom at taxpayers expense

yea for voting, get our guys the fuck out of that shit hole

 

[TommyTheCat]

It was about securing base in the middle east, isreal isn't prominant enough.

As far as doubt: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...ea/iraq_mideast

And even if this election was won by somebody, how many radical groups are running? They'd all bypass democracy to get a chance at running the place. We're going to be there a while.

 

[GSRCRXsi]

Originally posted by GSRCRXsi@Jan 31 2005, 02:41 PM
i havent followed the elections (minus what i occasionally catch on the daily show) cause frankly i couldnt care less, but who picked the candidates? we pick them? iraquis pick them? random people that said "hey i want to run"?

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[chestercheeto48]

Um last time I checked the election was to choose x number of representitives out of 300 or so candidates. This group of people would be in charge of writing the constitution and then there will be a general election in 2006 (i think) to pick a true president/prime minister. I say good luck and congrats.