i convert them to VCD format, and play them on DVD players, I use quicktime pro, which you can download for free from apple.com, and then get a serial from kazaa... then you just use the export feature to convert them to VCD, and then you just have to burn in Video cd format which i think easy cd creator does. this works on both pc's and macs. i just do not know what burning software does vcd format on a PC, as my PC does not have a burner...