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Originally posted by Slammed89Integra@Jul 24 2003, 01:42 AM
Shawshank redemption was an awesome movie.
Originally posted by New2TheCarScene@Jul 24 2003, 01:39 AM
he was arrested for committing criminal acts and no he won't rap about specific instances where he committed crime and didnt get caught, he's not that stupid.
Originally posted by Luke6@Jul 24 2003, 04:48 AM
tupac was a poet. You can believe the grey sterotype over everything. I'm very suprised no one has posted about the rose that grew from concreat...
Tupac: "I'm like a rose growing out of concreat. For a rose to grow from concreat, even if it has broken pedals, and bent stems, is beautiful. It's special. But people still look at me and say, he has broken pedals and bent stems"
that is a paraphrase, but you get the idea. He was intellegient and a thinker. I dont care for his music, or care if he even comes but, but i can see this.
Originally posted by pissedoffsol+Jul 24 2003, 12:41 AM-->word@Jul 24 2003, 01:39 AM
How many "niggers", in your definition, reads Niccolò Machiaveli.
how many people are in jail and have time to do that kind of shit?
all of them.
it was probably just passed around on some book cart (ala shawshank redemption ) and he happened to read the whole thing through
Originally posted by Slammed89Integra@Jul 24 2003, 12:42 AM
Shawshank redemption was an awesome movie.
Originally posted by dveit+Jul 24 2003, 01:04 AM-->New2TheCarScene@Jul 24 2003, 01:39 AM
he was arrested for committing criminal acts and no he won't rap about specific instances where he committed crime and didnt get caught, he's not that stupid.
Tupac was only found guilty of two charge and they were punching out Allen Huges (director of Meneace 2 Society) and sexual abuse.
All of his other 4 or 5 charges were dropped.
Originally posted by lsvtec@Jul 24 2003, 03:35 PM
This is exactly the same shit that happened when Kurt Cobain shot himself 9 years ago. There were not many rumors of staging his death, but his fans and the media made him a matyr. These people should not be idolized simply because they were semi-talented musicians that managed to make it big and then die "before their time". Many people have made a huge deal about 2pac's death and his supposed return. My question is why does anyone care? So what? This kind of thing isn't new, it happened with Janis Joplin (sp?), Jimi Hendrix, John Bonham (sp?), and Jim Morrison.
Let's look at the list here of factors that lead (directly or indirectly to death):
Hendrix: drugs
Bonham: drugs
Morrison: drugs
Joplin: drugs
Cobain: drugs
2pac: lifestyle in general
Do these people really deserve to be martyrs?
EDIT: I am not implying that I have a problem with drug use, but that I don't think people doing stupid shit makes them a martyr.
Let it go, what impact on your life (try to be truthful with yourself here) does 2pac being dead or alive have? If the answer is greater than 0, you need to rethink the things oon which you base your life.
Originally posted by machine@Jul 24 2003, 05:49 PM
This is what I kinda meant.
Originally posted by dveit+Jul 24 2003, 05:26 PM-->machine@Jul 24 2003, 05:49 PM
This is what I kinda meant.
This is kinda what you meant? If you re read your post you just were yelling and screaming like a little kid. Just because I havn't lived in da hood, bought money with food stamps, sold drugs, or "pimped my old lady" has nothing to do with whether I feel his music or not. When I listen to his music, I think about how much better I have it compared to him growing up as a kid and how I'm happy for myself that I didn't have to grow up with all the bullshit that he had to.
On a side note, i agree with you machine on Kurt Cobain. I think that Courtney Love had to do something with it. I think that if she really loved him then she wouldn't have published his diary to make money off of his misfortune.
Originally posted by mattcalica@Jul 24 2003, 06:32 PM
okay, just to add to all this talk about g-rap being the downfall of our youth. it all comes down to parenting...half the kids that buy this music are not over 18, and most times do not purchase the CD. Who buys these wigger kids their CD? mommy and daddy. Anyone under 18 should not listen to g-rap, because they are probably gonna stupid enough to go shoot someone. I cannot identify with tupac: i was never raised in a ghetto by a cracked out mom, but i do find his life and style of rap interesting, thats why i listen. how many of you have seen boyz in the hood or menace to society? we cant relate to that shit, but yet, they were both great movies.
Originally posted by mattcalica@Jul 24 2003, 07:32 PM
half the kids that buy this music are not over 18, and most times do not purchase the CD.
I mean tupac basically says it was bad boy that shot him five times.
Originally posted by Luke6@Jul 25 2003, 01:47 AM
My guess though is if he does come back he'll be dead for good soon.