B16a

[stud4u2c17]

Okay general concept....

ZC Swap is around 1200 for everything including installation
B16a- bout 2000 for everything

is 800 really worth 30 hp??

I know they might be a little outragious priced for the ZC but i dont half ass on anything (installin my self)

well thanks for your replys!

 

[phunky.buddha]

Is it worth it to YOU? That's the real question. This is going into an 88-91 Civic, right? If that $2000 is the full "drive out" price on a B16 swap, that's pretty good.

 

[E_SolSi]

Originally posted by Calesta@Feb 27 2003, 01:39 AM
Is it worth it to YOU? That's the real question. This is going into an 88-91 Civic, right? If that $2000 is the full "drive out" price on a B16 swap, that's pretty good.

 

[sportlinecrx]

here are some facts to consider:

PROS:
1) The ZC engine weighs about 75lbs less than a B16, which means the actual performance gained based on power/weight ratio is greater than what the horsepower numbers alone dictate.

2) i have read that alot of ZCs put out more horsepower than they were rated at by the factory. there is a website that mentions this. i'll try to find it for u.

3) price

CONS:
1) if you live in cali, all JDM engines are illegal (will be an instant fail at smog check time). and the only smog legal B16 is the B16A2 out of a 99-2000 civic si...and it has to be outfitted with california smog equipment.

2) the ZC uses parts from about 5 different honda engines, making it confusing when u want to add on to it.

3) there is so much more aftermarket support for B16's. in fact, B16's might have the record for aftermarket products available.

 

[sportlinecrx]

check out this ZC page. its got tons of great info although it wasnt the one i was looking for. look at the parts chart (lower on page) and u can see how many different engines you'll need parts from when you have to replace something.

http://www.88-crx.com/ZC_Page/ZC%20Swap.htm#ZC Specs

 

[simonc]

There's one ultimate thing which makes a B16a far superior to a ZC, in a word (or acronym!) VTEC.

 

[xj0hnx]

Originally posted by stud4u2c17@Feb 27 2003, 04:34 AM
is 800 really worth 30 hp??

Well,you could think about this,When people are buying bolt ons such as I/H/E and easily spending $1000+ for gains that might equate to around 8-25hp,sounds like 30-40 actual horsepower for $800 sounds better and better.

 

[MaaseyRacer]

Originally posted by rixXxceboy@Feb 27 2003, 02:44 AM
CONS:
1) if you live in cali, all JDM engines are illegal (will be an instant fail at smog check time). and the only smog legal B16 is the B16A2 out of a 99-2000 civic si...and it has to be outfitted with california smog equipment.

Correction: JDM engines are legal in California, they just need to have a USDM counterpart and all the smog equpiment, that the USDM counter part had. The ZC is illegal, because there was not a usdm ZC. And the USDM counterparts were in the B16 the B16A3 (Del Sol VTEC) and the B16A2 (99-00si).

 

[Domeskilla]

Some of the old tegs have USDM ZC's in them.. right?

 

[xj0hnx]

Originally posted by Domeskilla@Feb 27 2003, 09:50 PM
Some of the old tegs have USDM ZC's in them.. right?

Yes,but I think they were still stamped as D series.

 

[Domeskilla]

Originally posted by 92b16vx+Feb 27 2003, 04:07 PM-->

Domeskilla

@Feb 27 2003, 09:50 PM
Some of the old tegs have USDM ZC's in them.. right?

Yes,but I think they were still stamped as D series.

A ZC is a d-series engine.

 

[xj0hnx]

Originally posted by Domeskilla+Feb 27 2003, 10:11 PM-->

Originally posted by 92b16vx@Feb 27 2003, 04:07 PM
Domeskilla

@Feb 27 2003, 09:50 PM
Some of the old tegs have USDM ZC's in them.. right?

Yes,but I think they were still stamped as D series.

A ZC is a d-series engine.

I know but over here we have the same motors actually stamped with ZC is all I'm saying.

 

[Domeskilla]

Ah. Okay. I dont know shit about them. I just knew they were considered a d-series motor.