Are you going to get vaccinated?

Will you get a covid vaccine?

  • Already did

    Votes: 14 51.9%
  • As soon as I can

    Votes: 2 7.4%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 14.8%
  • Not until I have to

    Votes: 5 18.5%
  • Not a chance

    Votes: 2 7.4%

  • Total voters
    27

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invisibledemon

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I'm hoping they complete their studies and get it approved for kids under 12 soon, I'm ready for mine to be vaxxed. I assume it will be pfizer that gets approved for that first as well.
 

lswhitecivic

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Listen to this guy....this doctor..... watch the whole thing before you even respond. I am sure it will get taken down very soon

Data/Studies he refers to

Do you even look up these people before you post them? Lets break open this conspiracy at the school board meeting! Yes, that's the best way!

I really appreciate Dr. Dan Stock's information on epidemiology and virology, you know because he's a holistic health family doctor whose only medical residency was in ophthalmology. Definitely a most trusted source compared to the whole collective of the world's medical and scientific community. :hmm:
 

BrutalB83

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Do you even look up these people before you post them?

Oh, I guarantee you that he does not. And that's totally okay...for him. But you? You better do research for DAYS before you post anything and your sources better be IMPECCABLE but actually it doesn't even matter because any source you come up with, no matter how well documented or how seemingly impartial, is deep state commie bullshit.

You fail again, sheep! Keep trying. Maybe you'll pull that wool off from over your eyes someday! /sarcasm

EDIT: And just to be clear, I support peoples' right to make informed decisions about what they put in their bodies. I don't support double standards, though.
 
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lswhitecivic

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EDIT: And just to be clear, I support peoples' right to make informed decisions about what they put in their bodies. I don't support double standards, though.
I completely agree - it's your body, do what you want. But I have the same issue with what I believe is false information. Are there issues with our government and governments in general, yes, but to blast everything as fake news and then say everyone watch these amazing video of random ass people with crap credentials is bogus.

Here's already new blog and video articles discussing Dr. Stock's observations. But I'm sure all these guys are all for the world wide vaccine genocide and are just spewing garbage...cause you know...5g and all.

Addressing Dr. Daniel Stock’s Claims — Deplatform Disease
A Doctor Responds To That Mt. Vernon School Board Video
 

corvetteguy78

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so you present a video of a Youtube Doctor who basically agreed with almost everything to Dr. Stock said accept on a point or two. Did you even watch the video you posted? How many times did this guy say "I agree" lol.

Then you post another article where the guy tells you to view a study on masks that he links. Did you look at the study? Let me quote it for you..

Masking may reduce viral inoculum when transmission occurs, resulting in more mild disease (Gandhi, July 2020). There are a limited number of randomized controlled trials and a number of published observational studies on mask use to prevent SARS-CoV-2 transmission. These studies have a high risk of bias, variation in what outcomes are measured, and often, low compliance with interventions (Cochrane Review, November 2020), which is a barrier to drawing conclusions from the data

That's some strong evidence right there. Good job
 

corvetteguy78

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Also, someone said it best in the comments...

What a world we live in where a second medical opinion is now considered medical misinformation.

I see doctors disagree on medical treatment for a patient on the daily. Should I start calling one of them a quacked out conspiracy theorist?

It's pretty simple, if you go to a doctor and you don't like his treatment plan, go to one that will give you what you want.

If you have a back injury and go to a doctor who says lets operate tomorrow vs one who says..well i think we should get you into physical therapy and possible some injections and surgery would be the last option.....who would you choose?

That's a personal preference.
 

corvetteguy78

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Women's first hand account on how vitamins and other treatment saved her husband from being put on a ventilator after falsely being tested for covid when he had simple pneumonia. Husband walks about of ICU in 3 days while others not being treated with vitamins are still in the same ICU.

Fascinating. But she's a quack too though.

 

BrutalB83

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I see doctors disagree on medical treatment for a patient on the daily. Should I start calling one of them a quacked out conspiracy theorist?

The answer to this question depends on the scenario...

Scenario A: Two well-credentialed doctors consult on a patient. One of them suggests a certain course of treatment, and the other suggests a different route.

In this scenario, my answer is no, but maybe a third expert opinion should be obtained to get a consensus.

Scenario B: A doctor offers their unsolicited opinion promoting a non-conventional course of treatment. Upon hearing this advice, numerous well-credentialed doctors say, "NO! No, no, no, no, NO! Whatever you do, do NOT listen to that guy. He's spreading misinformation and giving bad advice."

In this scenario, my answer is that we should probably NOT go all-in on this doctor's advice prior to looking in to their credentials and reading up on their suggested avenue of treatment to see what research has been done on it and what the consensus is from the medical community. And at THAT point, we can form a better conclusion as to whether this person is credible or not.

It's pretty simple, if you go to a doctor and you don't like his treatment plan, go to one that will give you what you want.

I completely agree. Do your research, think on it, and then do what you think is best for you and your family. Trust the doctors and the information that you feel most confident about.

Now could you please stop attempting to shame people for doing exactly as you suggest? Thanks.
 

lswhitecivic

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so you present a video of a Youtube Doctor who basically agreed with almost everything to Dr. Stock said accept on a point or two. Did you even watch the video you posted? How many times did this guy say "I agree" lol.

Then you post another article where the guy tells you to view a study on masks that he links. Did you look at the study? Let me quote it for you..

Masking may reduce viral inoculum when transmission occurs, resulting in more mild disease (Gandhi, July 2020). There are a limited number of randomized controlled trials and a number of published observational studies on mask use to prevent SARS-CoV-2 transmission. These studies have a high risk of bias, variation in what outcomes are measured, and often, low compliance with interventions (Cochrane Review, November 2020), which is a barrier to drawing conclusions from the data

That's some strong evidence right there. Good job

There's way more information in the videos than what you're talking about, so if that's all you took from them, good for you. I shouldn't have to explain it.

Also, someone said it best in the comments...

What a world we live in where a second medical opinion is now considered medical misinformation.

I see doctors disagree on medical treatment for a patient on the daily. Should I start calling one of them a quacked out conspiracy theorist?

It's pretty simple, if you go to a doctor and you don't like his treatment plan, go to one that will give you what you want.

If you have a back injury and go to a doctor who says lets operate tomorrow vs one who says..well i think we should get you into physical therapy and possible some injections and surgery would be the last option.....who would you choose?

That's a personal preference.

Completely agree with getting a second opinion from your doctor, you do you, and I'll do me. Stew Peters and a former sales exec from Pfizer are not reputable doctors to be giving medical advice as to why the vaccine is a conspiracy. Dan Stock is a medical professional, but there are plenty of falsehoods in his statements that go against general science and the actual data that is coming out on Covid, so yeah I'll call bullshit on him as a lot of what he says is verifiably not true. But if you say "Listen to this guy...this doctor" I'm gonna give my opinion and the opinion of the vast majority of medical professionals that goes against what he's saying.

Women's first hand account on how vitamins and other treatment saved her husband from being put on a ventilator after falsely being tested for covid when he had simple pneumonia. Husband walks about of ICU in 3 days while others not being treated with vitamins are still in the same ICU.

Fascinating. But she's a quack too though.


She's not a quack, but she's dealing with a single person and their treatment that worked. Good for her. But what worked for her husband may not work for vast majority of people as humans are complex systems and every scenario is different. There are active studies going on in several major universities trying alternative therapies, but guess what, for the majority of patients the therapies don't see to have much difference.

I have issue with her essentially telling people not to trust medical professionals. Like if that's your end game, why did you even go to the hospital? Buy some oxygen and give it to your husband at home.
 

corvetteguy78

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This has has nothing to do with a "Vaccine Conspiracy". The Vaccine does absolutely nothing to prevent the spread of Covid...0... zilch, nothing... that's why vaccinated people are being dubbed super spreaders. It's not your fault, as usual, the government lied to you. They told you if you got vaccinated you can go to concerts and sporting events and large gatherings and you would be safe. You got duped.

Getting the vaccine is a personal health choice, just as with anything else in life, whether you eatthat double bacon cheese burger, or drink 5 days a week, or do drugs. All personal choices. The vaccine MAY reduce symptoms from Covid...great lovely. I'm not concerned about Covid so i chose not to get the vaccine. Me not getting the vaccine has ZERO effect on anybody else but myself. It actually makes me safer then vaccinated people because i MIGHT get symptoms and can make the choice to self quarantine as to not spread it to anyone else. Vaccinated people might not have any idea they are infected and are more likely to infect the worlds population.

So if you ask me, getting vaccinated is a selfish act.
 

lswhitecivic

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I think this horse is beaten dead and in an Elmer's bottle at this point.
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This has has nothing to do with a "Vaccine Conspiracy". The Vaccine does absolutely nothing to prevent the spread of Covid...0... zilch, nothing... that's why vaccinated people are being dubbed super spreaders. It's not your fault, as usual, the government lied to you. They told you if you got vaccinated you can go to concerts and sporting events and large gatherings and you would be safe. You got duped.

Getting the vaccine is a personal health choice, just as with anything else in life, whether you eatthat double bacon cheese burger, or drink 5 days a week, or do drugs. All personal choices. The vaccine MAY reduce symptoms from Covid...great lovely. I'm not concerned about Covid so i chose not to get the vaccine. Me not getting the vaccine has ZERO effect on anybody else but myself. It actually makes me safer then vaccinated people because i MIGHT get symptoms and can make the choice to self quarantine as to not spread it to anyone else. Vaccinated people might not have any idea they are infected and are more likely to infect the worlds population.

So if you ask me, getting vaccinated is a selfish act.
So why is the government lying to me if it isn't a conspiracy. If they're lying there must be a motive behind it...
 

BigJ

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Everyday I log in here, I am reminded that we will not beat this virus if corvetteguy has any say. We're fucked folks.
 

corvetteguy78

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Everyday I log in here, I am reminded that we will not beat this virus if corvetteguy has any say. We're fucked folks.
We can't even "beat" the flu or the common cold but this retard thinks we are going to beat Covid. Good lord you people are fucking stupid. It's so sad to see how dumb people are.
 

BrutalB83

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We can't even "beat" the flu or the common cold but this retard thinks we are going to beat Covid. Good lord you people are fucking stupid. It's so sad to see how dumb people are.

I would just like to point out that you sat here and tried to explain how the vaccine is really about injecting us all with graphene so that we can be tracked via 5G networks and none of us called you a fucking r-tard for it.
 

corvetteguy78

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I would just like to point out that you sat here and tried to explain how the vaccine is really about injecting us all with graphene so that we can be tracked via 5G networks and none of us called you a fucking r-tard for it.
No..actually i shared a video of an ex employee explaining how she believes there is graphene...and no where in that video does she say it can be tracked with 5G...she literally says the vaccine cannot do that...literally in the video...she says it...but you didn't watch it...

also .it's not inconceivable.....in fact its being worked on.....i also shared that as well...but you refuse to read, watch and listen. This is technology being worked on but you don't want to hear it.

just keep wearing your mask and take your 5th booster
 

corvetteguy78

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Here's another article for you...from an EXPERT out of Oxford University Vaccine Research Group, the most prestigious institute on the planet....But im sure to you just another quack doctor.

mRNA Experts Claim COVID Herd Immunity Unlikely​

  • 08/16/21
  • WorkCompAcademy.com



Sacramento, CA - Dr. Robert Wallace Malone is an American virologist and immunologist. His work has focused on mRNA technology, pharmaceuticals, and drug repurposing research.

He was a pioneer who helped develop mRNA vaccine technology, raised concerns about potential long-term autoimmune issues and other complications potentially arising from mRNA jabs. He showed concerns about the possibility that 'imperfect' vaccines might actually help foster more virulent COVID variants due to a phenomenon called "ADE"- antibody-dependent enhancement. Essentially, what doesn't kill the virus makes it stronger.

He has been highly criticized during the beginning of the COVID pandemic for these views.

His views are gaining traction. A British scientist and academic named Professor Sir Andrew Pollard, who is the director of the Oxford Vaccine Group. During a briefing, Sir Pollard warned Parliament that the UK likely won't ever achieve herd immunity, thanks to the delta variant.

In remarks that risked undermining the government's vaccination campaign, Sir Pollard, a professor of pediatric infection and immunity, warned Parliament on Tuesday that achieving herd immunity is likely "not a possibility" thanks to variants like delta.

Recently, a group of scientists estimated that the threshold for herd immunity might now be as high as 90% due to the delta variant. According to Pollard, we're learning for the first time that herd immunity is magical thinking - and has always been magical thinking.

Since those who are vaccinated can still be infected by variants, "there is virtually nothing the UK can do" to eradicate COVID completely.

"We know very clearly with coronavirus that this current variant, the Delta variant, will still infect people who have been vaccinated, and that does mean that anyone who's still unvaccinated, at some point, will meet the virus," Pollard said.

He said it was unlikely that herd immunity will ever be reached, saying the next variant of the novel coronavirus will be "perhaps even better at transmitting in vaccinated populations."

Pollard also shared what sounded like a subtle criticism of masks by saying that "We don't have anything which will stop that transmission to other people." As an example, he pointed to Israel, which saw new cases and hospitalizations nearly disappear before the new variant took hold, causing cases and hospitalizations to surge once again. Now, there have even been a handful of patients who have tested positive even after receiving their third dose of the Pfizer jab (which the US has only just approved for a third dose as well).

Even the White House is finally acknowledging that vaccines aren't nearly as effective as they once believed, which is why the FDA has decided to approve the third dose. "I think everybody believes this wanes over time, the question is to what extent," a senior Biden official told Axios. "Nobody wants to be behind the eight-ball here. We want to catch it before there's an issue, and that's why there is very intense scrutiny.​
 

corvetteguy78

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Efficient mRNA delivery with graphene oxide-polyethylenimine for generation of footprint-free human induced pluripotent stem cells​

Hye Yeon Choi 1, Tae-Jin Lee 2, Gwang-Mo Yang 1, Jaesur Oh 3, Jihye Won 1, Jihae Han 1, Gun-Jae Jeong 3, Jongpil Kim 4, Jin-Hoi Kim 1, Byung-Soo Kim 5, Ssang-Goo Cho 6
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Abstract​

Clinical applications of induced pluripotent stem cells (iPSCs) require development of technologies for the production of "footprint-free" (gene integration-free) iPSCs, which avoid the potential risk of insertional mutagenesis in humans. Previously, several studies have shown that mRNA transfer can generate "footprint-free" iPSCs, but these studies did not use a delivery vehicle and thus repetitive daily transfection was required because of mRNA degradation. Here, we report an mRNA delivery system employing graphene oxide (GO)-polyethylenimine (PEI) complexes for the efficient generation of "footprint-free" iPSCs. GO-PEI complexes were found to be very effective for loading mRNA of reprogramming transcription factors and protection from mRNA degradation by RNase. Dynamic suspension cultures of GO-PEI/RNA complexes-treated cells dramatically increased the reprogramming efficiency and successfully generated rat and human iPSCs from adult adipose tissue-derived fibroblasts without repetitive daily transfection. The iPSCs showed all the hallmarks of pluripotent stem cells including expression of pluripotency genes, epigenetic reprogramming, and differentiation into the three germ layers. These results demonstrate that mRNA delivery using GO-PEI-RNA complexes can efficiently generate "footprint-free" iPSCs, which may advance the translation of iPSC technology into the clinical settings.
 

corvetteguy78

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How many times in your lifetime have companies told you something was safe or lied to us only to find out the truth years later

Let's see:

Big Pharma
Tobacco Industry
VW diesel gate
Talcum powder
Big oil BP
Naked juice
Olay
Sketchers

etc...etc...etc...etc..etc....etc...etc..etc..etc..etc...the list runs on forever

You want to take things at face value, that's on you. I can care less about what is in the vaccine. i won't be getting it. i hope for the 100,000,000's of people who took it that it ends up being safe, but we wont know for years.
 
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