you guys ever play infected?
its an interesting twist
you get a big group, the more the better, and then one guy gets infected, like a zombie
in the games lastnight the zombies only had melee knife attacks, the first zombie gets a throwing knife to help him get his first recruit, and then the zombies have to infect everyone else by knifing them
zombie juggernauts vs normal players
or juggernaut normal players vs zombies, you need 2 stabs to kill em.
can be very frustrating, especially on dome when everyone camps up on the catwalk, but tey run out of ammo sooner or later and need to come down to scavenge, and you pop em
or everyone just constantly rushes until you overtake them
give it a try sometime, lots of moabs.